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[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 118 points 4 days ago (1 children)

As someone that grew up with detached parents with whom I never had the relationship I wanted, I've come to recognize that it will never happen. My mother is now dead, and like my father, she lacked the capacity to engage in healthy relationships. The monologue in the "Free Churro" episode (S5E6) of Bojack Horseman really hits home for me, this point in particular:

I have this friend. And right around when I first met her, her dad died, and I actually went with her to the funeral. And months later, she told me that she didn’t understand why she was still upset, because she never even liked her father. It made sense to me, because I went through the same thing when my dad died. And I’m going through the same thing now. You know what it’s like? It’s like that show Becker, you know, with Ted Danson? I watched the entire run of that show, hoping that it would get better, and it never did. It had all the right pieces, but it just—it couldn’t put them together. And when it got canceled, I was really bummed out, not because I liked the show, but because I knew it could be so much better, and now it never would be. And that’s what losing a parent is like. It’s like Becker.

For anyone else in the same position, recognize that it is exceptionally difficult for people to change, and a necessary prerequisite is that they see change as necessary and want to change. Most are afraid of change and will never do it, to their detriment.

[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 21 points 4 days ago

I slept on that show for a long time. I thought it was going to be a dumb, raunchy, adult cartoon and I was so wrong about it. Some of those episodes are real gut punches.

This one in particular didn't hit me in the way it did you, but it still felt like a truth of some kind.

[–] hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

So thankful my dad isn’t like this

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 72 points 4 days ago (2 children)

There's a chance that media like this will get him to think, even if he initially rejects the idea.

Might be a very slim chance, though.

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 56 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Media literacy is surprisingly low. Just look at how many people think Star Trek is conservative 🤦‍♂️

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 58 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"Whoa. When the hell did Rage Against the Machine become so political?!"

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"When did Star Wars get so woke, and therefore broke???"

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If fucking only it went broke. They’ve produced like 3 hits, 8 misses. Their budgets are a billion dollars each, how can they so consistently create garbage with a billion dollars? It’s utterly baffling. And it isn’t even entertaining garbage. I enjoyed birdemic and the like. It’s just boring, disjointed, anxiety-inducing, and dumb.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They just say that. I don't know why, they don't either. And you're right, they make consistently uninteresting slop. They managed to make Star Wars boring, and this is coming from a massive Star Wars fan lol Same thing with Marvel, I stopped watching any of it after Secret Invasion.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I know the saying, I just can’t help but rant when Star Wars is brought up. Disney as a whole has been so terrified of offending anyone that they can’t help but offer the safest, least interesting garbage they can. They made me dislike Paul Rudd. How’d they even do that? I miss when Finn looked like he’d be the main character.

[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

And somehow they made Andor in the mix. I’m no big Star Wars fan, but both seasons were absurdly good. And political. And not so subtle.

[–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. With the amount of Star Wars media Disney were/are pumping out they're bound to create something worthwhile eventually. It's like that thing with the monkeys and typewriters.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Eh, first season was great, second season was good. Just a whole lot of nonsense from that anti-war senator that pulled me out. Establish that she’s not the brightest bulb before you show her lack of shine. Had they done that, I’d have loved season 2, rather than liked it.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes. Though I can’t recall many of the particulars, only my exasperation

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The show gave her a lot more depth than she had in the original trilogy. In the original trilogy, she was kind of just a random rebel leader, in the animated stuff, basically the same. I think they captured the essence of rich white liberals still fighting within the system in vain until they have no choice but to stop. It made sense to me at least.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

I dunno, I might have given her the Skyler treatment. When I rewatch it in a few years, I’ll be able to assess that.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Fuck that. The morons who scream WOOOOKE at everything they don't like that doesn't fully cater to their worldviews are part of the reason why those shows and movies suck. Blaming bad writing on any kind of agenda is giving the writers and showrunners an undeserved scapegoat.

Yes, the latter seasons of Doctor Who were an atrocity, but it's not because of the Doctor's female incarnations (although the retcon itself is still horrid), it's because Chris Chibnall is a fucking terrible showrunner and dogshit writer that makes even Moffatt's writing look positively adequate. Fuck you, Chris.

[–] xkbx@startrek.website 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It’s the military space battles. Most of them gloss over the whole socialist utopia as “fantasy” and just go right to “they’re just military during peace time” view

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

Not just that; look at it from a specific angle, and it’s about a white, straight, human male ‘saving’ the poor, savage alien species—when not beating up the evil, aggressive brown alien species, that is.

I mean, they are obviously missing a lot of the context, but they’re not pulling their beliefs out of thin air, either.

[–] Horsecook@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Just look at how many people think Star Trek is conservative

I mean, TOS has Captain Church galavanting around the galaxy with his mixed-race manservant, inserting himself in other races’ business so he can sex up all the foreign women.

Voyager has a woman captain that’s so incompetent she strands her crew on the opposite side of the galaxy.

DS9 and STD have black main characters that are canonically violent criminals.

There is a race of Jewish rat people…

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Also the ships are run like military ships (which they are), starfleet is very top-down authoritative. I also wasn't a huge fan of how they treated any local laws like gospel, even when they were about to cost a crew member their life or freedom for stupid reasons.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

There is a race of Jewish rat people…

Hey, the Ferengi are space arabs, thank you very much.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

I mean it worked on me. Raised Republican, surrounded by Republicans my entire adolescence. Always voted Republican.

But then I discovered Digg after Kevin Rose talked about it on TechTV, and that changed everything for me. Then after Digg committed sudoku, I moved onto reddit, which further pulled me to the left. Now here I am on Lemmy, embarrassed with myself for being ignorant enough to actually believe that the Rs were the good guys for the first 25-some years of my life.

Point I'm making is that if I can change my ways, then others can too. The only people who vote R are either a. ignorant or b. evil. Those like me, who are the former of the two can change their ways. I don't think there's any hope for those who are a part of column B.

[–] JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I had a former friend think the patriarchy scene in Barbie was aspirational 💀💀💀

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

Wait its not about horses? Not interested.

[–] stray@pawb.social 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Reminds me of when I watched the Babadook with my mom and she came away offended and thinking all the other people in the film were very mean to the mom.

[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 12 points 3 days ago

It's sad that I know people like this. The definition of "self-centred".

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 days ago

This killed me, the absolute fucking bluntness lmao

[–] Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 16 points 4 days ago

In time youll become stronger from their absence in your life. Remember, god is dead and we killed him. We always kill god.

... and some day youll kill the image of your father being a small god, an entity for whose love and approval youll strive.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 17 points 4 days ago

Jesus Christ. Yeah, I'd prefer to not have a father figure like that. I mean, I do, but I'd like a better one.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Oh god that's genuinely tragic.

Sorry OP, your dad sucks, move on sooner than later is my advice, please don't ask about where this advice comes from.

(Yes I know the OP here on lemmy probably is not that actual original OP, but ya'll know what I mean.)