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The cost of allowing Vladimir Putin to live, is getting thrown in the meat grinder.
The meat grinding will not stop until Putin dies.
Yeah, but it's always other people getting thrown in the meat grinder, it would never be me!
The people waiting to take over from Putin are not going to make matters any better.
The people waiting to take over from Putin are not going to make matters any better.
Best relieve them of the burden of leadership then.
That's assuming there isn't a populist revolution. It's not like Russia is immune to revolutions or anything...
Yeah, the oligarchs are planning to take over, but that's also why they keep dying. Who's going to be left in the end? Is there actually going to be an oligarch capable of taking over? Anyone capable of it will be a target.
Can't happen soon enough. It feels good knowing that most of us here on Lemmy will outlive this monster and get to dance on his grave!
As a Ukrainian, it's hard to be certain, unfortunately
Dpubt it will stop after, there are enough in his party to continue this and other mad plans. They all need to be removed from the gene pool at the same time
I cannot imagine a scenario where allowing his inner circle to stay in power would be acceptable.
Absolutely but how to remove them all at the same time? last time a purge happened was when putin came to power, suddenly a whole load of officials were arrested for bribery ect, mostly from other political camps.
don't see anyone unsitting putins party especially with the amount of ballot stuffing
Absolutely but how to remove them all at the same time? last time a purge happened was when putin came to power, suddenly a whole load of officials were arrested for bribery ect, mostly from other political camps.don't see anyone unsitting putins party especially with the amount of ballot stuffing
Prigozhin was about to march into Moscow and take over before they talked him out of it and then killed him.
When Russian citizens finally have had enough of the bullshit, they will take heads. Any of the regime that is too stupid to scatter at that point will simply be swept away.
All of this can be initiated at any time.
Need to do it the old fashioned Russian way. Get the military heads behind you, overthrow the despot, put him and all his cronies up against the wall, and then the next “strong leader” takes power.
draftees will serve only within Russia and will not participate in Russian invasion of Ukraine.
[ X ] Doubt
He's telling the truth in his own twisted ways. After all, Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk, and Zaporizhzhia oblasts are unilaterally annexed by Russia since 2022.
No no, you see, the parts of Russia that weren't parts of Russia 5 years ago is not invasion, it's defense!
Instead, they will participate in Russian invasion where else?
I think what's being implied is they'll do some kind of service on internal military bases, and the guys they're replacing get shipped off. I'd be very, very suspicious of that promise, though.
It's absolutely bonkers, the continued death and destruction, no one winning... All because one old rich white guy won't admit he was wrong.
And all these suckers go and die for him. In a country of 100 million, not even one of them bothers to put a bullet in Putin, instead of being his cannon fodder.
IIRC private citizens aren't allowed to own guns in Russia, and Putin controls the oligarchs that control the mob, so he has direct control of all the weapons in the country. In theory.
I'm certain that can't be totally true. In remote areas hunting must be allowed. Maybe you have to have a license, but there's no way no civilians own guns legally. Also, there's a lot of illegal guns in Russia too.
That's the part I don't understand. Those Russian soldiers are being abused in unimaginable ways. And yet they just take it and let themselves be killed.
Russian soldiers come from poor regions: Siberia, the Far East, Kalmykia, etc. To many poor recruits the pay far exceeds anything they could get in civilian life. It's the same strategy as the US military: go to impoverished states and get those desperate poor schmucks to fight and die for you.
Russia has expanded the draft and seemingly can't count on volunteers as much as before. So the situation may change in the future.
Putin's goal has been to reestablish something like the Soviet Union and the territory that covered. Far as he's concerned, Ukraine is legitimately Russian.
Still don't under stand why he's poking the bear with NATO when he's struggling with his current war. Ukraine has bombed so many refineries that he's blocked fuel exports. Russia just launched the largest drone and rocket offensive and killed a whopping 4 people.
He seems to do his classic bluff and threatening, assuming NATO will then back off as they have done in the past. It's not very effective these days.
Ukraine has been fighting the Russian taxation since before the Czars
My guess? Someone handed him a time limit and he's rushing things through...
There is good strategic logic to what he's doing to NATO. If he can make them scared then maybe they withhold aid that they think they may need to fight Russia when they get attacked. This is a stupid plan for those scared nations, as it's much better for it to be expended in Ukraine against Russia now, weekening their threat, rather than hold back and allow them to gain power. Still, it has worked previously. It seems to be backfiring now though, with NATO nations realizing giving everything they can to Ukraine is the best way to protect themselves.
One rich fuck with absolute power and unbelievable wealth and the largest country on Earth just HAD to have a little bit more land and destroyed the entire global peace to get it. The Mad King for GoT is less of a spectacle than this absolute disaster of a "leader".
The “only in Russia” bit is a bait-and-switch, because they declared Crimea, Donetsk, and Lunansk “Russian territory” a year or two back.
Good catch.
Oh wow you need another 135,000 soldiers for the war. What happened to the last 135,000?
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE LAST 135,000?!
Last 1 MILLION, that's how much ruzies lost already (as casualties not deaths). Thats at least 5 times of what US lost during Vietnam war. Insanity and ruzi peasants sitting on their palms all subservient.
What access does the average Russian citizen have to unbiased and truthful reporting?
For those citizens with that knowledge, what actions can they take to organize some semblance of a resistance?
You don't need unbiased reporting to see the funerals of your friends and neighbors. You don't need unbiased reporting to see the huge increase in gas prices —if you can get any at all. You don't need unbiased reporting to see that Russia is gaining ground literally several times slower than a snail's pace (a snail would have crossed all of Ukraine, and that was a year or maybe more ago).
At a certain point, biased reporting can only do so much. They know that things are wrong. They know they're suffering. They know that they aren't winning like the government told them they would. They just need to do something to change this.
1984 would like to have a word
Hey, an actual comment that understood 1984! That's nice to see. Normally people think it just talks about surveillance.
Even in 1984, where the party has total control over all media, and even control over the language, there is still small dissent. It makes it harder to go against them, but not impossible. It's just a story though, so it doesn't actually show reality.
If things get bad enough there's only so much the media can do to calm people down. Once they can't calm them they need to scare them from fighting back. If it gets to that point I think they're done. There's already very effective partisan activity in the Russian mainland disrupting the war effort. If they can better blend in to native activity it'll be even easier.
If they want, they can turn on their VPN and read the BBC in Russian just like you or me can read RT. Is it made visible or convenient in any way? No. And the story the local media tells happens to be much more alluring if you're personally a Russian...
For those citizens with that knowledge, what actions can they take to organize some semblance of a resistance?
Being political is not cool in Russia; they've had bad experiences both with government supporters and government collapse in recent history, and then Putin has encouraged apathy as a control technique on top of it. It sounds like the vibe is more that everyone's keeping their head down and hoping it just resolves itself.
Which is also why there's not more volunteers, they have to pay them literally like they won a lottery, and then they still get really basic effort in the end.
It's way past the point of truth searching. Russia is a fundamentally failed society and Russians know it. The people have given up completely.
What access does the average Russian citizen have to unbiased and truthful reporting?
At some point you no longer need reporting. Direct observation and word of mouth becomes enough to paint the picture.
For those citizens with that knowledge, what actions can they take to organize some semblance of a resistance?
What they need to do is a general strike.
One more mobilization bro, and we can have Estonia.
More meat for the grinder to satisfy Dear Leader with a Stalin complex. Sad for all the stupid loss of life and the wreckage it leaves behind.
That should be good for another 6 months of slaughter give or take
According to this, Russia has a casualty rate of 1,523 per day (in November of last year, and this has gotten worse IIRC). That's 88.6 days. Less than three months.
Edit: This source has it at about 30000/m, so about four months at the current rate.
At the current rate?!?...
Maybe 3 months at best
Seems like a regular yearly draft
That's like 2 weeks of war extended
