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Warning for Vancouver real estate as 2,500 condos sit unsold
So prices will go down, right?
...Prices will go down, right?
Economics is only a pseudo-science for the rich. For the poor, it's always an ineffable mystery.
Where is your source for this statement?
Cool thanks for the source clown.
I really don't understand, how do people have the gaul to make such an outlandish comment and publish onto the internet? At least try to prove such an outlandish statement with something.
You're asking for a source for a snide comment "published" on lemmy.
Get a clue.
there are over 100,000 empty in Ontario.
These idiots who keep telling us housing is priced by supply and demand need to fuck off.
The market can stay irrational longer than you can remain solvent.
Like. Since all these Ricky dinky pieces of shit started being out I've firmly believed they were a ticking time bomb waiting to happen. I feel like the whole fucking real estate market is.
Sooner or later the chickens will come home to roost.
Bkawwwwww
Maybe for a bit as those companies go out of business. Then they go way up because there's no new houses. Or we could solve whatever the underlying problems are.
The underlying problem is houses are priced to high. There is no such thing as an "unsold home" - they are overpriced. Mystery solved.
The thing we're worried about here is unbuilt homes. I think I actually laid it out pretty clearly.
Overpriced homes will go unbuilt, as will homes for foreign investors and homes for short term rentals. That's all good news so far. Demand for affordable homes for Canadians homes will continue, and so will supply. Supply of those homes will increase as supply of the overpriced decreases - ie when the real estate industry starts building what people want and no what they want to sell.
"homes will go Unbuilt if we don't bend over for the real estate industry" is exactly the same lie as "if we tax Job Creators the jobs will go away".
The homes in the article were the affordable kind.
The absolute gall of you, talking about solving problems. Are you even thinking about those poor rich folks out there?
Actually no. This one might not have anything to do with them; few people benefit from homelessness, and the article itself mentions some nebulous thing about the laws governing developments in Vancouver.
Industry professionals say unbought condos could lead to big layoffs
Everything is unaffordable, workers are all being laid off, AI is replacing people, minimum wage isn't enough to support a living wage...
What's the capitalist end-game here? A world full of poor, unemployed, desperate people likely won't make shareholders any richer, will it?
Nobody is at the wheel. Nobody ever was.
"I guess we'll see what happens."
~ Billionaire CEO who can support his family for the next 1,000 generations.
Historically big business wealth only lasts a few, actually. Nepobabies spend big, and each can have several children of their own to which the wealth has to be divided.
How dare you use facts and logic! This is whining sublemmy and I find it appalling that you don't just whine like everyone else!
Yeah, they all seem to gravitate towards that. Hopefully I'm helping.
Since I've been white knighting for developers and investors up and down this thread, I should probably mention that I still am team eat the rich, or at least team we shouldn't have any rich. The funny thing is that they wish they were evil geniuses, like their opposite number around here seems to want to think.
What's the capitalist end-game here?
That capitalists maximumize their wealth.
And ultimately that there can be only one, and they all believe that it'll be them
What's the yeast's end-game here?
THEY'RE GONNA TURN US INTO MEAD AND DRINK US???
I think there was a movie about this
The capitalists' game is to pivot their wealth and influence to becoming the dictators of countries. It's world domination.
I'm not kidding.
I bought a condo that was part of an HOA. 5 year old construction. Purchased right before covid hit. Within the first year I had a chandelier fall out of the ceiling with no provocation, which I had to pay to fix. Then my 2nd bedroom started leaking from the roof and window during rain. A fucking 5 year old roof should not be leaking. The best part, I couldn't pay to get the roof fixed because it was on the outside of the house and those repairs had to go through the HOA. During covid, I'd be in my garage making art, and people would drive through the cul-de-sac asking if any of the condos were for sale. It was my sign to get out. I hated it so much, still couldn't get my roof fixed, and I still managed to sell it and make 20K profit. Much of the newer construction is absolute trash. Also, fuck HOAs.
Oleg Galyuk, real estate agent with Royal Pacific Realty, said in his experience older condos tend to sell better than pre-sale condos.
"The new inventory tends to sit on the market," he said.
He said the layouts of some of the new homes are one reason for lack of buyer interest, as well as a lack of parking spaces that are harder to sell and rent.
Galyuk said developers are throwing out a variety of incentives to get people to buy built units.
"They're throwing in parking stalls. They're throwing in storage lockers. They're giving cash-back on completion."
He said he thinks some developers have put too many eggs into the "investor basket."
"Right now, a lot of condos [are] coming online that people don't really want to live in."
Says it all really
βThe new inventory tends to sit on the market,β he said.
Because they are too small, and poorly built, a huge liability waiting to happen with no reserve funds to deal with it. Never, ever, buy a new or preconstruction condo, they are basically kickstarter housing.
The reason older condos/townhouses sell is because they were built when there were inspectors actually doing their jobs. Step-daughter moved into a new teeny-tiny condo, and shower door fell off after 4 months. Gaps developing in the βluxuryβ vinyl plank flooring. Cupboard doors coming off because screws arenβt long enough. Theyβre garbage homes.
Doug got rid of all trades inspectors from 2018, so any asshole with a home Depot credit card is now doing plumbing and electrical.
These are Ontario Tofu Dreg projects, years from now they will cost us a fortune to demolish.
Everyone's saying housing is too expensive, groceries are too expensive. Everything is too expensive. Which is more likely, that all of those many things are ALL too expensive, or just one simple fact, you make too little?
Just bind wages to a real cost of living.
It's a real shock, I know. Who could ever have imagined that building loads of million-dollar condos and endless suburban sprawl would fail to be the answer to our housing problems?
You can replace Vancouver for Montreal and you'd have the same thing.
In Montreal we laughed for years at the 1M$ shack or mansions in Vancouver, but now in Montreal an average house is also 1M, it was like 500k 5 years ago. There is something like 3000 empties condos too in Montreal, maybe 10000-12000 airbnb too, and 25-34yo people especially those with spouse/children are leaving Montreal en masse.
It is completely fucked up right now. Rent also doubled. People on minimum wage are making ~2k$/month, an average rent is 2k$/month.
Let's not talk about an average new car at 65k$ and an average used car at 36k$
Has the province started shutting down those Airbnbs? I thought there was a bunch of media noise about that recently.
Who could have guessed? The super tiny, yet still branded "luxury" condos, listed at nearly the same as a townhouse, are having troubles selling???
In Burnaby, they're building super high density 400sqft micro apartments as if land is super scarce, while next door are 6000sqft lots of single family houses. Of course older condos are selling better because they're nearly double the size and often low-rises that sit with a community, not among wannabe-downtown skyscrapers.
"The cost that is associated with policies at all three levels of government has made it that we can no longer build what people can afford," she said.
I'm curious what she means by this exactly. Non-market housing and art is mentioned later on. Are they expected to pay for that themselves?
It's not like they physically can't build condos people can afford. With no regulations they could build South Korea-style coffin apartments. Nor are they making money from this situation.
What the developer is saying is that their private industry can't function anymore and it needs to be nationalized and social housing made a right.
Private industry where it can, social industry where it must.