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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It's fucking stupid that there were that many people on that mountain in the first place. Climbing it is like a millionaires bucket list item, so many of those assholes do it.

I know it brings in a lot of money, so this will never happen, but I'd like to see the mountain completely closed. Pay the Sherpas to bring down all the dead bodies, then give them a pension. Some billionaire will no doubt try to buy their way in, but don't let them. Keep some things sacred above money, tell them to fuck off.

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 53 points 1 week ago (5 children)

To me, it's not necessarily people climbing it that's the issue. It's that some people have so little respect for everyone and everything that they're perfectly content to use the world as their own personal trash can.

I shit you not, I recently chewed some lady out on the hiking trail 2 miles from my house because she chucked the plastic bowl and spoon from her lunch off into the woods, in front of God and everybody like it's just no big deal. Well it's a big fucking deal to me.

And if a person can't manage to go on a hike or scale a mountain without leaving their garbage behind like a slob, then they should stay home.

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[–] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)

No way. I want to see this and extreme deep sea exploration become a billionaire's bucket list item. Send them all.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

I heard about this really amazing adventure we could send them on.

[–] whereyaaat@lemmings.world 3 points 1 week ago

I gotta admit, I'm never upset when I hear about tourists dying on everest.

Rich people deserve every bad thing that happens to them until they give up their wealth or it's taken by force.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

100% but they can't get ANY tax break or subsidy for that. They also can't get PR out of it.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

To be honest. If I died on the top of the highest peak in the world. I'd want my body to stay there. Like, unless it's in the way and creeping people out. Leave me.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd strike a pose or something. I think it would be cooler if it was in the way and creeping people out tbh. I'd probably climb the mountain with a few props just in case.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

And here is Grimy from .world. They froze to death 500 years ago with a massive Dildo in their mouth. Some wonder if they froze attempting to place the butt plug in as well. But, as all their clothes are still on, most people believe the motion was simply a gesture for, what people at the time called, "the memes".

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

and its not even special anymore, because your with 1000 other douches try to chase clout, or brag about. if one was CLIMBER and not someone trekking there, than that is different.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

All the money in the world won't get you to the summit. And if you make it that far, you're not even halfway out of danger. The way down is so fucking brutal, people can't carry the extra weight of trash.

Money just gives you a ticket to ride, won't get you to the summit.

And if you think Sherpas are capable of carry frozen corpses down, that tells me you're ignorant on this subject. Read Into Thin Air if you want to know more. It's one of the most surprising non-fiction books I've read.

[–] PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I don’t give a fuck. Gooooooooooooood. It’s mainly overly wealthy people doing this. They shit and leave crap all over the mountain. Literal shit everywhere.

[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It is 100% overly wealthy, selfish people and the service workers they’ve trapped with them.

Spending thousands on gear, then going all the way to Nepal (a less developed country) to climb a mountain is the very definition of “overly wealthy.”

Nothing says “I don’t care about anyone else” like insisting on being the millionth tough guy to climb a mountain, just to say they did.

I think this should be part of the risk. Leave them up there and clean the bodies up when it thaws.

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Come on with those absolutes… first hit on google for a commercial top of the line expedition ranges between 100k for the crazy short-track « climb the whole thing » to a relatively affordable 3k to go to the base camp…. Which is less than a whole lot of families apparently spend on vacation. Additionally those are very important source of revenues for Nepalis…

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Oh, the "locals depend on the revenue" argument. Haven't seen that in a while.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I invite you to go to Nepal and educate the people on taking a moral stand and cutting off their revenue. I'm sure they'd be very receptive.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

You got that fucking backwards, sir.

One does not ask the oppressed to change the abusive relationship, one speaks to the pricks paying 50k to leave their actual feces and trash on a mountain to check a box.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

I agree with both of you.

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That’s tangential but worth mentioning. At the very least I have an adopted brother over there that depends on tourists so yeah, I feel it’s a sensible argument. My whole point is that it is such a specific and hateful position… the guy should really chill down a bit.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At the very least I have an adopted brother over there that depends on tourists

That's the point, and that's why the guy is not "chill" about it.

Tourism is very much a colonial economy when there is income inequity. I am sorry that your adopted brother depends on tourists for income, but that does not justify the inequity.

If you were to hire a Sherpa in the Alps or Canada, you'd be paying a hell of a lot more for the privilege of the climb. So tell us again why these rich folks get away with paying so little...

When you make the argument that the locals depend on the income, you are also implying that it's OK the locals earn so little without these rich folks.

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Nope, I’m not saying any of that. I’m just happy that he -specifically he who I very much know- can eat because some tourists pay him for his art. So in that frame it is not all negative. Whatever the price is really, he comes from living in a monastery in India to going back to his home country and being able to sustain himself with that money. System is not perfect but at least he eats.

If you worry about that you’ll have to consider all other inequalities in manufacturing as well… or in IT…. So why just that one example ?

[–] Frigidlollipop@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Id like to sneak in and offer an opposing argument here. I see what you are saying, but imagine if someone said poachers in Africa depend on the revenue from selling illegal wildlife goods. The idea is that even if its a reality now, it really isn't a good one, and if they COULD work away from it, it'd likely be better overall.

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I would argue that poachers are criminals by definition…. Sherpas must less so.

[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Oh, that includes all of the equipment, flights, and transportation?

For one person, right? Comparing it to a family vacation proves my point. A douchebag insisting on going to a big mountain seems a little different than a family vacation…

I will never mind speaking in absolutes about this. If you care about going to Everest, you are a selfish asshole. Full stop. I don’t care that it’s affordable for you, that’s part of the problem.

I don’t care if the locals rely on the abuse, it’s still abuse.

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dude you have very weird and specific perspectives. To each their own doesn’t ring a bell? Is it an Everest specific issue or do you sell wholesale for other destinations as well?

Take that hait energy and make something positive out of it instead…

[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It’s actually ok to not like harmful things! It’s called having integrity.

Your arrogance is astounding.

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My arrogance ? Sure is.. I’m the one judging everyone….

where do you draw the line of harmful things? We are by nature harmful things to a degree with all our activities…

[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This is not a valuable conversation, because I’ve already told you where I draw the line: somewhere BEFORE “I want to climb Everest.”

The fact that you can’t tell the difference between people traveling all the way to Everest and “everyone” makes me think you’re a bot or a troll.

Again, being judgmental is valuable, this conversation is not.

Billionaires shouldn’t exist, people shouldn’t go to Everest because they are insecure.

Not hard to understand. “But—” nothing.

Ok, you’re not even reading. Pathetic. I’ll block you now, bye!

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Appealing to authority now? You’re quite a piece all around…

[–] spacesatan@leminal.space 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Now take this exact line of reasoning to you owning a phone or having any hobbies and actually try to find a material difference.

[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Oh yeah there’s totally no difference between having a phone and going to Nepal to climb a mountain…

Genuinely: how fucking stupid are you?

[–] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I almost said computer but realized that couldn't be assumed. Fine, a phone is closer to a necessity.

There is still basically no difference between this and any other hobby that involves something manufactured by people in poor countries other than proximity to the people doing the labor. You are just mad that people who have either a bit or a lot more money for their hobbies have a hobby that doesn't appeal to you personally.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

also taking advantage, albiet paying them, sherpas to CARRY all your junk.

[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 1 points 1 week ago

You wouldn’t believe the number of people who think owning a phone and traveling to Nepal to climb Everest are the same thing.

[–] FatTony@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Get in line.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago

yea its like 50-200k per person i believe. Some idiots even tried K2 mountain, which is more deadly.

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[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know much about it but I think trying to climb that mountain might be dangerous

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, that's why they do it

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

So everything is fine then.

[–] Blubber28@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I read another headline earlier, something like "Blizzard strands 1000 people on Mt Everest."

And my early morning brain went "ugh Blizzard really is an awful company, going way too overboard with their promotional material." I wasn't even that surprised.

Now I see this headline and that earlier one makes more sense 😂

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

While it's tragic that the mountain is going to add to its death toll on this, the idea of people queued up on the world's tallest peak just for limited-time virtual merch, made me chuckle a bit.

After that Pokemon Go stampede in Central Park all those years ago, I'm feel like stunts like that are far more plausible than ever.

Edit: I also keep forgetting about the stuff RedBull does these days...

[–] Blubber28@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah that's the thing. It would be outragiously stupid way to advertise their things, but sadly that does not make it impossible...

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

they used the lich King to put people in thier place.

[–] DarkGamer@fedia.io 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Into Thin Air x 100

Reading that book made me decide trying to climb Everest is a bad idea.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

Every chapter made me sure I didn't want to climb everest.

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[–] luxliminal@piefed.social 13 points 1 week ago

Okay, it took me a minute to realize this wasn't a bunch of Star Trek fans stranded on Everest.

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