Even if you don't like the guy, I think it's worth reading what he has to say. And you can agree with what he says and go on not liking him.
this post was submitted on 10 Oct 2025
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Finally. Some one gets it. It's about the "mail" not if you like the mailman delivering it
Now, if there only was a software one could control, that could be made to offer real good privacy and encryption…..
Yeah telegram isn't the best. They need encryption by default in private group chats and personal one on ones even without secret chat activated But the point is people need to stop the government censorship. Only if their were people who weren't slaves that could demand and force the government to stop egregious practices, instead of trying to be smartasses online
You‘re not wrong. But all of that needs private, trustworthy software…
My message to Telegram CEO: Open source your shit and we'll talk then about freedom and whatever marketing campaing you are on right now. Bye.
I don't see why the CEO of Telegram is concerned about laws about scanning of private messages since the vast majority of the communication on Telegram is unencrypted.
That and the need of an android or iphone in order to create an account.... ;[
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The guy who made bank on Russian suppression of communication: "Europe is the problem."
What I found most alarming about this whole thing: this post showed up in the Telegram app for me, in a banner. I don’t follow Durov’s channel. He decided to push it to every Telegram client regardless of whether they’re following him.
Mine looks weird 😄
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The UK is imprisoning thousands for their tweets.
What an absolute loads of bollocks.
There has recently been 1 woman jailed for her tweets where she admitted to inciting violence, not because of free speech issues.
These libertarian wankers love citing that sole case (and make out that it's "thousands, I tell ya!") but will overlook that several Just Stop Oil protesters were jailed for 4 years just for holding a zoom call and anti-genocide protesters are being arrested and charged with terrorism offences just for writing on a bit of cardboard.
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Germany is what? Also the EU voted against chat control.
I partly agree with your point, but please state the facts precisely.
Also the EU voted against chat control.
They did not. It was just removed from the agenda for now.
OK, I didn't know. But my point still is that we don't have it (yet).
I recently heard a podcast “interview” of him by Lex Fridman and - while he’s for sure extremely intelligent and talented - it looks like he’s been infected with the “philosophical fit-bro ultra-liberist elitarianism” disease that is all the rage now, unfortunately.
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The free internet is already dead. Where has this guy been hiding that he didn't know that.
It is and isn't.
I'd compare the people who use technologies like this to the internet users of the 90's and those who use facebag, tweeker and insta to the AOL users back then.
Yes, we're the minority, but that is how people have always been. Most people don't want freedom. But those that do still have plenty of options. Don't forget that "they" didn't originally plan on us plebes having true encryption tech and privacy cryptos. It is possible that we are doing better than it looks.
But yea.. his comment sounds more like something we would have said 20 years ago, rather than the present. I agree with your point.
Yeah censorship is rising but it's not at 100% this is what is being spoken on
Do you have a link to a source for this?
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