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[–] ook@discuss.tchncs.de 106 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, however, any subtle change in the past could unborn me. Any subtle change now only unborns people I will never know!

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] lath@piefed.social 55 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Disagree. Republicans wait until someone is born before they unborn them.

[–] turdcollector69@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

The way the good lord intended 🙏

[–] plyth@feddit.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

And a Republican wouldn't prefer taking risk over letting people unbeknownst to him take the risk.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Republicans are well informed about the issue of time paradoxes?

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 62 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I think the point here is intent. Sure, tagging a sign or having a conversation with a stranger might have far reaching consequences, but we don't know what those consequences could be and we don't know what the consequences of not doing it would be, either.

Time travellers, though? They know exactly how the world will be as a result of them not doing anything, and they want to keep it that way.

[–] FlihpFlorp@piefed.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly this. I have no idea how talking to a stranger 10 years ago changed his life or mine or the butterfly effect turned out.

I often think to myself what would change if I did that. Not play online with friends? Probably not much, but what if I chose a different that come with different connections, took a different class in college.

We have no frame of reference for what actions did. Just the present

[–] Zabjam@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

You have a good point, but I think you can also read it in a different way. You can understand it as an encouragement. It is an answer to the question "what can I do? I am just a small nobody". If you understand that time travelers are scared to change even the smallest things because they will alter the future, it will give you a perspective to see that everything anyone does can make a difference.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

That's literally the opposite of the moral of every time travel story ever told.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

And, there's both sides of the butterfly effect theory. The one side is that tiny changes can ripple through the world and have a massive effect. The other side is that seemingly big changes sometimes don't have much of an effect at all.

If you're a time traveller and you go back in time, you know that there might be a very small number of possible futures where you exist. An even smaller number of futures where you're a scientist. An even smaller number of futures where you're a scientist who figures out how to build a time machine. And so-on. So, you don't want to risk any disruptions that might negatively effect the world that you know.

At the same time, in the present, it's hard to know what to do. Big protest movements often have minimal impact. The things that do have an impact are impossible to predict: something unexpected happens while a reporter (or these days a big influencer) happens to be filming, and something about it goes viral.

If you don't want things to change, you don't touch anything because even a small change could have huge consequences. If you do want things to change, it's hard to know what to do because even a big change often seems to have few consequences.

[–] Endmaker@ani.social 49 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Don't mind me; just changing the future.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

NO !! this would have far-reaching consequences

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Potentially several inches beyond that!

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Unless it turns out you were supposed to do it. In which case, for the love of God, don't not do it!

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

chaos theory.

any tiny perturbation has unpredictable effects.

therefore any change in the past will have unpredictable consequences, which will differ from your preferred timeline.

however, any change in the present will lead to a different future, but you can't really know which one will it be based on your actions. maybe if you pick your nose right now will lead you to win the lottery next month, you can't tell

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

therefore any change in the past will have unpredictable consequences, which will differ from your preferred timeline.

Wait, this is people's preferred timeline?

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The terrifying thought that this is the good timeline.

Reminds me of a writing prompt years ago about time traveling police preventing other time travelers going back to kill Hitler because those timeliness were worse.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

See Stephen King's:

book11/22/63

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

The time traveller exists in this timeline. While it might not be the optimal timeline, it is possibly one of a small subset where the time traveller exists. The time traveller existing is probably a basic requirement for it being among the preferred timelines. But, as Back to the Future showed, you can always time travel, disrupt the past only slightly, and return to a timeline that was better than the one you left.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

maybe if you pick your nose right now will lead you to win the lottery next month, you can't tell

can't hurt to try !

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

as likely that picking your nose right now will lead to you getting your nuts/jelly bean kicked by a horse next month.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 4 points 2 weeks ago

You can't trick me, old witch ! I'll take my chances !

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lotta people would go back in time to kill Hitler. But why? Hitler's already dead in the present. 🤷‍♂️

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

to prevent what happened inbetween?

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I strongly believe killing Hitler would not have solved things.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yep. The rise of Fascism was a result of class dynamics brought on by the declining impact of imperialism on the rate of profits.

Hitler was just an opportunist, not some Great Man of History.

[–] not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds awfully familiar.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 5 points 2 weeks ago

Hitler was still popular in Germany.... in the 1960s. Being freshly dead doesn't seem to wane someone's popularity it seems

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

And therefore wasn't any sort of improvement.

That's the metric, right? One action fixes everything, or don't bother.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This comment will radically change the future.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 6 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Goun@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago
[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

So let's all get our pitch forks and cast out president and all congress? He just keeps getting away with breaking the law, ignoring it, and unless we all gather up and force their hand, they're not budging.

[–] LSNLDN@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

2nd amendment famously retains your right to pitchforks

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

Just step on a bug and wait 500 years. Ezpz.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

well there is a difference because in present you won't know how you changed the future but in past you will know when you come back.

[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There is also a big difference in your capabilities in the past. Modern knowledge is a major asset in the past, not necessarily in the present.

[–] railway692@piefed.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

🦋 u/lemmyuser will remember that...

[–] mossberg590@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

You know what small change to make when you go back in time. Plus you see immediate consequences.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Because I already have a wife. What more changing of my future do I need to hope for or to dread.

[–] ValarieLenin@midwest.social 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

o7 absolutely stellar memes per the usual Lady butterfly! Thanks for the phenomenal content you've been putting out!!!

Thanks so much! You're very welcome

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

this one hit me

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

This is how I feel whenever there's an online discussion of time travel and someone suggests buying bitcoin.