I just noticed yesterday, that existing subscribers can stay at the old price. There's an option to switch to a "basic" plan, afaik you will lose access to audiobooks, but they only give 12h of those per month, for the 2 euros extra.
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Okay, but I can access my full library from anywhere at full quality from multiple devices, I have several 5,000 plus song playlists with little to no overlap between a few of them and I have had CDs lost or stolen and had drive failures delete digital libraries. But sure.
I mean… you own or have nothing when your Wow sub ends also.
Level 20 baby!
I did hear WoW is fun again
Is it? Last time I tried I was having somewhat good fun until I got the stupidest mythic dungeon group that bullied the fuck out of me as healer and stopped again shortly after that. I liked that there was just so much to do but I'm still not sure I can really enjoy the game the same way I used to now my life is so different and don't have as much time to give to it.
A friend of mine started playing again and said it was really good. Idk about the time sink though.
You gotta find a good guild to dungeon crawl or raid with. My favorite thing was being raid lead during Mists and working with a big team. I did some competitive WoW back then, and even played with Asmongold, my character is in some of his old videos. Makes me pretty sad how he turned out.
When I was just a lad looking for my true vocation
My father said "Now son, this choice deserves deliberation...
Though you could be a doctor...
...or perhaps a financier...
My boy, why not consider a more challenging career!"
people pay for music? Wow at least give you something for the money, although pricey. others like RS trying to justify thier price increase without substantial increase in content.
A couple of years ago, I had a Napster subscription (the reborn, legal variant of it). At first, I was happy to have unlimited access to music, then after 2 years I realised that I was paying 120 EUR a year for music I'll never own, so I cancelled the subscription and put my yearly budget for music to exactly that amount. It yields more than enough given I buy used CDs, and then digitalise them. That way I own the physical media as backup AND am able to transfer the digital, PCM-quality tracks unfettered across my devices AND with no need for DRM or shitty proprietary applications.
You gotta put in the effort, which most people are too lazy to do
I only play songs once on Spotify, if you catch my drift.
I don't even play it :3
Just the albums on my favorites list in Qobuz would have been around $10,000 USD to purchase in hi-res.
This would be right if not for the fact that Spotify will regularly introduce you to music that you might like and otherwise might not have heard of. That can be worth paying for.
Except that as part of its enshittification Spotify has intentionally changed its algo to push people into more and more homogenous "beige", nothing music. It has become so prolific that Spotifycore has become a term to describe what happens when you let Spotify autoplay.
With the rise of AI, Spotify is now producing and recommending beige music that is produced on an industrial scale, at the expense of actual artists.
Mood Machine go brrr
Mood Machine by Liz Pelly review – a savage indictment of Spotify | Music books | The Guardian - https://www.theguardian.com/books/2025/mar/05/mood-machine-by-liz-pelly-review-a-savage-indictment-of-spotify
This is why I use Spotify and why it's gotten so much worse over the last year.
My blocked artists list used to be empty, but now it feels like I'm blocking every third new artist for being AI.
I love starting out with one song and just letting the algorithm do it's thing. It comes up with new shit for me all the time.
We had scrobbling services before Spotify and we will have them afterwards.
See Last.fm and ListenBrainz.org
ListenBrainz.org
I signed up for this about 2 months ago because someone on here recommended it. It's absolutely garbage unless you only listen to radio music. I listen to industrial hardcore and uptempo about 90% of the time, the remaining 10% are a pretty even split between hard rock and radio music. It only recommends me radio music, not a single hardcore track.
I have subscriptions for Spotify, Tidal and SoundCloud, and all 3 of them have vastly better recommendations of you listen to less popular genres
I would argue that this is the entire value proposition of Spotify. I may not own the music, but I have all the artist and song names. I can always re-acquire them at any time.
They mock you for subscribing to an online service. I mock you for subscribing to WoW instead of FFXIV. We are not the same.
(Insert FFXIV free trial meme here)
FFXIV is just a drip pageant. Seems like it’s little else but people standing around role playing fetishes.
I've never played any of the FFs :/
FFS
I still download my music. Two pros: I have control over where, when and how I listen to it. And I only download music I actually want to listen to.
One con:Â Finding new music is harder (I imagine).
One con:Â Finding new music is harder (I imagine).
That's what radio helps with, there was also Pandora, but I didn't know if it is still alive after Sirius XM bought them.
Find an online radio station you like and you don't need Pandora any more.
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ListenBrainz is the solution for discovery
I have found a ton of new music through KEXP's YouTube channel.
Found the Seattleite. Can’t believe I didn’t notice your name all this time and connect the dots.
I listen to C89.5! Website and app both work flawlessly.
Finding new music is harder (I imagine)
In my opinion, it's harder, but not even necessarily because it's harder to do it in the end. More because it's just harder to get started.
For example, I find way more music I enjoy listening to through Bandcamp than I ever did on Spotify, but that requires having existing artists that I follow and can see their recommendations for, having a feel for which genres I actually like instead of a vague mental concept of what I like to listen to that I can then keyword search by in Bandcamp's search/discover section, and hoping that the human curators on Bandcamp's newsletter pick artists I like. Bandcamp doesn't really have algorithms, so those are my only real options.
It's more effort, but it's infinitely more rewarding.
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You idiots don’t have a 6 cd changer in your car? Pathetic!
My car doesn't even have a CD slot :(
I do it the old fashioned way. Giant binder of discs I get my passenger to flip through and swap in and out
Damn a 100 cd changer then, mad respect
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No, but I have a USB stick with over 100 albums on it, so I can listen to the same 5 albums all the time.
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The internet is over, you guys. We can finally switch off our devices and take a good nap.
Return it to Big Ben when you’re done with it.
That's where it has the best reception, right?
Man, Spotify were the ones who did it. Like they made the service so significantly better and more convenient than pirating that most of those pirating actually switched.
Not a fan of the platform anymore since the heavy push for sponsored content, removal of audiobooks and the whole Joe Rogan thing, but still credit where it's due.
The built a thing by burning investor money to artificially lower the price and sell out high on stock IPOs is still going strong I see.
I washed my clown makeup off with a home server
Recently done the same and could not believe how easy it was too set up an *arr stack. It's like magic
Yarrr.
*laughs in physical media*
*cries in disc rot*
I usually have to listen to a song several times before it fully "clicks" if I like it or not, so music streaming subscription is great for being able to grab any song I think I might like and throw it in trial playlist. Back when I bought/acquired music, I would skip over most music I might like because the effort wasn't worth it for a song I wasn't sure if I liked or not. So streaming has worked really well for me for music discovery at least.
On the bright side, I'm still getting my $8 a month early adopter price for Google music all access (now YouTube music).
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