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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions

Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

what is the last thing where he forces him to sit down? some sort of ego hurt power trip to show he is the boss and can get him to sit by command?

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 189 points 2 days ago (3 children)

FREEDOM means Allowing Random Unidentified Men to Kidnap you your Wife and your Children and take you to Undisclosed Locations! THANK YOU Party of Defending Jeffrey Epstein for ALLOWING this Freedom!

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 47 points 2 days ago

Freedom of traveling to a concentration camp

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

They had a "USA FREEDOM ACT", its a law that allows mass surveillance. Lmfao.

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[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 129 points 2 days ago

Dude filming/ constantly questioning / objecting until they leave him alone is a real hero.

[–] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 71 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Imagine watching WWII movies about SS and Gestapo harassing people for "papers" and assaulting them and thinking, "I want to be that guy".

Boy did their parents fuck up. Mama never hugged you, huh? Fucking sociopaths.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I read your comment like

why would you want to be shoved around by Nazis? Took me a while to realise you're talking about someone wanting to be the Nazi shoving people. And you're god damn right. Fkin sociopaths who never got enough love.

[–] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry for misleading you. 😁

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Nah, all my fault, read it wrong because of prevailing opinions.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 94 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'm sorry, but I don't understand how nobody in that train is not saying something as simple as "how do we know you're not criminals posing as cops"? When did you yanks get so complacent?

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Home of the "BRAVE"....

[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's New York, people will take a shit on the subway and the other passengers might just get off a stop earlier.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Remember when someone was stabbed and everyone just walked by without helping in NYC

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Remember when people actually thought that the police would help them?

Why The Cops Won't Help You When You're Getting Stabbed

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s hard to listen to, but I remember hearing the story, but never heard the ending of the court story past the ruling that police had no duty to protect people.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Back when you had the remotest chance of actually getting justice.

[–] KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago

Id have pointed put that the guys partner looks very much like an illegal immigrant and if the dude wanted to meet quote, there's a brown race traitor right there.

[–] maximumbird@lemmy.world 146 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Dox this fuckin pussy. His full face is on display.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 64 points 2 days ago

Name him, dox him. Who is 'red sweatshirt'? I didn't bother with the audio.

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[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 day ago (6 children)

How have these "agents" not been shot already? Where are all the guns that Americans love so much? Isn't this exactly what arming yourself is for?

[–] bigpEE@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

where are the guns

Not in NYC

[–] this_1_is_mine@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

GTA is a lie you go 0 to 4 stars in one shot. 5 stars if you Luigi someone. Lifes unfair. good luck.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

Because the people in this video wanted to live.

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[–] user_name@lemmy.world 72 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Full face close up. Shouldn’t be too hard to get a name.

[–] user_name@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago

From Ice List he is Mike Duggan who also appears in the ProPublica NYPD files. Racist, fascist scumbag.

[–] HelluvaKick@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That "cop" is clearly fucking drunk. I know that bloated dead look and chewing gum like a cow chewing cud.

[–] Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

That's just the way cops chew gum. They also say "okay" the same dismissing way that sounds exactly like their tongue is in their cheek when enunciating.

[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 49 points 2 days ago (3 children)

They way their faces are uncovered and the "don't give a shit, I'm just tired.." looks on that guys face.. Is that a NY cop?

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[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 43 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Felt like the guy was one wrong move away from a subway rumble. Someone should have beat his ass.

Edit: I was talking about the ICEHole

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 30 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Why didn't the conductor close the door on these guys?

[–] miked@piefed.social 19 points 2 days ago

Conductor must have known they were doing something.

Also, The ICE guy was flashing his light from side to side, probably towards the conductor. That is the signal to stop. Up and down is go.

[–] bestagon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I believe the flashlight down the train is a signal that mta employees use to hold up the train. Don’t know whether or not they knew what was actually going on or just saw the flashlight

[–] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm kind of stunned by this entire comment thread. Your comment is the only one that gets close to pointing out what he is and not just who he is. This dude isn't ICE. He's a NYC Transit Cop which can be identified from their dollar store looking ass badges and by people not really taking his authority seriously at all. That's also why his face is on full display, he doesn't have the same coverage that ICE gives him.

Like not saying what he's doing is right or saying that he's got coverage for this. Just saying that key detail is being left out of a lot of these discussions. It doesn't change the fact that he's a douchebag but being informed always changes the situation for the better.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, they do deny being ICE (although I'm sure ICE assholes lie). And have some badges attached with bodycams. And also let the guy go in the end.

I've not seen those happen in most ICE videos I've seen.

But I don't known what's going on, obviously

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