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Laittakaa meemejä tänne.
People really need to stop spreading this misinformation.
It was a TRAIN.
Gangbangs are simultaneous, trains are sequential.
So if you were to compare it to a vehicle a gangbang would be like a plane that goes to Epstein Island, just like Steven King did multiple times.
up for interpretation
Not defending King, as I always found the gangbang suspicious after I learned about it (haven't, and won't read it anyway), but there are people who fully believe Trump is a pedo etc but don't think there's any actual files the way people want. They argue there's evidence, sure, but not the exact client list full of incriminating details on everyone involved that people are expecting to see.
Personally, if I remember the timeline right I can see that point, and it could be true, or there could be files, but I think the lions share that associated with him should be under suspicion, no matter the political alignment, and we should still keep pushing for them anyway, even if there is a chance they aren't the format lots of people think they are.
The gangbang makes sense but it is still fucked. Penny wise goes after kids so fuck and you’re no longer a kid. Still a plot point that should have stayed unexplored
The gangbang makes sense but it is still fucked. Penny wise goes after kids so fuck and you’re no longer a kid.
Maybe they could pay some bills, fill some spreadsheets in a cubicle, get a doctor's appointment complaining about lower back pain, instead of a gang bang?
It isn't all too uncommon of a story what with the supposed potency of virgin sacrifice, virgin foreseers whose powers are literally tied to their maidenhood, shit like that.
I'm not saying it was a good choice, I'm just pointing out that King is not the only weirdo to have ever existed.
People reading horror for some reason:
"What the fuck is this horrific shit what was the author thinking"
😂😂
Horror that heavily involves sexual themes is definitely difficult. Unless you make it immediately disgusting, a la Meatcanyon, it's nearly impossible to make it seem like anything other than a thinly veiled fetish.
To be fair, he was drowning in cocaine when writing that book, so he managed to keep the lid on it to the best of his abilities.
Ah. This is why everyone posting cocaine.
I was trying to figure out how a bunch of tweens stuck in the sewer got a hold of enough cocaine to think an orgy would help their cause.
According to King, at the height of his cocaine use he wrote the entire novel Cujo and doesn't remember writing it at all.
You could also make a strong case that the director credit for the movie Maximum Overdrive should go to cocaine rather than King lol.
Yeah, King went through a rough patch that only got worse before it got better.
There is a what?!
This scene is such a stain on his legacy I wish he'd put out a version without it.
In interviews he's said how we are the messed up ones for finding it gross. Something along the lines of "everyone is fine with the child murders but somehow the sex scene is wrong".
I've reread it a couple times but skip over that scene.
I think that we all have really fucked up thoughts every now and again, and behaving like we never have is a great way to delude ourselves into believing a false reality.
Better to own them and grow than bury them and act like you're some golden god on high.
Reading the story, the "gangbang" part wasn't like a huge orchestrated planned event. The kids were lost in the dark, loosing hope, and knew that IT wanted them to feel down and weak as alone they could be defeated by IT.
In an effort to make them feel close, Beverly took it up her self to make them all Eskimo Brothers. This brought the Losers Club back into solidarity.
I'm a big fan of Stephen Kings work. He's deserving of respect as a writer and story teller. Your explanation is reasonable and true in the context of the story.
There is just no way to talk about, write about, discuss, etc, stuff like that, without the air in the room not going still as fuck. All of what you say is true, it's still.... off.
And that book was just a bit too long, but again, great book, great writer, questionable AS FUCK portion.
cocaine
Ya know, people keep saying this, but I've tried coke before, and preteen sex didn't cross my mind once during it.
We're you writing a book about pre-teens being lured by a murderous clown when you did cocaine? No, I didn't think so!
The people saying it have probably never seen an illegal drug before much less party time Adderall
I agree, coke makes you an annoying motormouth with no filter. If kiddie shit is what comes out then that's just what was inside to begin with.
Stephen King is not a good writer. He has great story ideas; but, his actual writing is poor and he does weird things that are unsupported by the narrative - like writing sewer gangbang scenes with children so that they can defeat the bad guy with the power of underage eskimo brotherhood.
You can explain that in a less derisive way that sounds a bit more reasonable, but it doesn't make it a good narrative choice.
Another example is 11/22/63. People on reddit cream their pants over the book, but it's literally just King self-inserting as the main character so he can (totally uncritically) reminisce over how great small town America was in the 50s/60s and have a fantasy relationship with this incredibly weak/badly-written female character and repeatedly "make poundcake" with her and drink rootbeer floats in diners or whatever. It's an 800+ page book (paperback is 1049 pages) supposedly about time traveling to stop the Kennedy assassination (which is a cool story idea), but like 700+ pages are filled with asinine garbage and the actual plot is thin and pretty bad.
I read so many of his book thinking "at some point I'll land on one that'll make me understand what all the fuss is about". Never happened. As you said, the guy has great concept ideas, but he doesn't know how to build on them. So many endings are so stupid and far fetched it would be comical if it were a Jojo's Bizarre Adventure episode...
"Buy why"
Drugs.
Don't blame the drugs, man. Drugs only enhance what's already there. Just like Ambian didn't make Roseanne racist.
I always thought the part with Patrick and the refrigerator was far, far worse than the adolescent sex scene.
Also, Beverly having her period is a pretty big plot point. Not exactly prepubescent. The boys maybe.
This scene haunts me to this day. The barrens is for me the most unholy place in fictional existence. Shouldn’t have read it as a teenager. Nobody stopped me cause “look she is reading such a huge book.” …
When I was 12, my mum told my teacher that I found the books we were reading for class childish. Teacher then gave me IT to read instead. No idea what he was thinking. Being the same age as the characters, the sex scene was the most traumatizing by far.
"so you little shit think you can handle what adults read, huh?"
Wow. Thankfully my teacher had better sense (or maybe not); when he asked why I wasn't doing silent reading of our course textbook, I told him I read the whole text the night before or on the weekend. He was pissed at first...and was yelling about it. Not sure why. But next day he must of realized he overreacted and brought in the Battlefield Earth tome for me. It was the thickest book I'd ever seen, and kept me busy. Something like 900 pages maybe. Lol.
Lmao what's up with teachers getting mad at little kids reading faster than they should?! I have similar experience where the whole class was supposed to read one book together, like a chapter per week at home. At that point I was a major fantasy nerd and could read several books per week, so imagine the agony when the book was actually good! I gave up pretty quickly and just read it, and the teacher was so angry. I didn't get in any more trouble than that either, though. I guess you'd have to be a really bad teacher to actually punish a kid for reading, even if you get mad at your plans getting ruined
Yeah it's weird. Like you have the lesson plans, just give the kids that are ahead the next section.
Luckily we had a cool music teacher, she saw that I lacked music capabilities so just let me bring a book to read in class. After a while there was two of us reading at a desk while rest of the class played three blind mice for the 100th time LOL.
Wasn’t IT about the loss of innocence? Also drugs were a factor
I've been told that cocaine is a helluva drug
