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So I see this game. Let me sum up what I actually see:

  • Reviews are mixed: not a great start
  • Requires 3rd-party account: fuck that
  • 60 euros base game: expensive, especially when the game has mixed reviews
  • 175 euros DLC's: are you fucking kidding me? On top of 60 euros for the base game, there's another 175 fees for content?
  • purchasable CoD points: so pay to win?

And they don't understand why people pirate, run away from AAA games and go for indie games instead.

This is just a random example. I've quit playing COD after Modern Warfare.

To end this positively: I recently started playing Necesse which is really nice, and I started playing an old time favorite again after a long time: World of Goo. Both worth my money :)

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[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 5 points 56 minutes ago

Short answer: you wouldn't buy this game, given your valid criticisms.

This type of extortionate pricing policy speaks to the general user base being nobs, die hard try hards and probably a toxic gaming environment. Having a barrier to entry in any activity prevents total idiots from entering. Consoles have made it easier for people who don't understand how to operate a PC to play games but that necessarily means those games will be replete with obnoxious people. The advent of smartphones has done that for the internet.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

It's CoD. You're asking why people drink coke if you don't like coke.

Also, steam FPS reviews are full of people on full tilt. Use better review sources.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 1 points 34 minutes ago

Why would I buy this?

I can only think of one reason, because it's the game your friends are playing.

You have two choices; buy the shitty game with the understanding that the game itself is not what matters but the time spent playing with your friends. Or, don't buy the game and spend the next few weeks, or months, not playing with your friends and hope they grow bored of the game soon.

[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I played Tekken 3 in PSX when i was a kid. One CD had everything, many modes, many characters, ton of fun.

Ffw to 2 years ago, i think to play with a friend Tekken again, searching in Steam Tekken only to see that it has 24 DLCs, many of them that are fighters (game has 16 unlockable characters, and 14 more being paid DLC)...

[–] lando55@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 1 points 50 minutes ago

When i checked no (Tekken 7). But they released Tekken 8 last year, so maybe they added it (hopefully not in DLC).

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I feel like they could have called CoD Points something other than CP. 🤣

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 2 points 53 minutes ago

There are lots of valid abbreviations that CP uses other than child porn.

[–] BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I can see somebody inquiring about the amount someone has, and if they would be willing to share any. Boom. On a list.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Ah it's very simple, you would buy this if you'd made your whole personality about being a GAMER, where you believe that the only real games are FPS PvP War Simulation, and everyone that plays anything else is a poseur.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 hour ago

And even then there's Battlefield 1 which got all the content unlocked now, is fairly cheap, the servers are going strong, and it's really really fun.

[–] I_Clean_Here@lemmy.world -4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

We didn't ask your size

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Unsurprising, it's not for anyone but those who spend a lot to be able to frag the other one.

I stopped playing MMOs and online shooters a long time ago. Instead dividing my time between actual cycling and playing single player adventure games.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 10 points 5 hours ago

There is plenty of shit on steam that I wouldn't buy, just don't buy it

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 10 points 5 hours ago

It's not for you, you are not the target audience. The target audience is the people who buy MADDEN/FIFA every year.

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Reviews are mixed: not a great start

More than not a great start: Only people who have bought the game are allowed to review it, so reviewers are already biased towards liking the game, because only somebody who thinks they would enjoy the game would spend money on it. It's basically impossible to get a strong negative score by just being run of the mill awful. So "mixed" means that about 50% of people who though they would enjoy the game, didn't, which is quite damning.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 hour ago

When I said this on Reddit I got downvoted to hell and called a hater lol

[–] CaptKoala@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I took a break from necesse after no lifing it for weeks after I discovered it. Now that it's just hit 1.0 I managed to gift a copy to a friend, and watching him outgrow my hard earned knowledge in a day with some guidance in mechanics was probably the most satisfaction I've felt this year.

Indies are carrying the industry and have been for a long time. Hmu for some necesse.

[–] anarchyrabbit@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Ooo I stumbled across this yesterday, peaked my interest and I bought it. Looks interesting, can't wait to play it!

[–] CaptKoala@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 hours ago

I'm at 60hrs and counting. Started new char and world for 1.0 as well as play with my bud and so far we've basically caught up to where my pre1.0 save was at.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That's really nice! I'm finding it hard to start a proper game, I need some motivation. Hopefully a friend of mine has time to play together :)

[–] CaptKoala@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago

DM me if you fail to find friends to play with, they also have a discord server and I see folks playing in there basically daily.

[–] RabbitMix@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm all for hating on CoD, but the DLC "content" is skins and minor cosmetics, it really doesn't add anything to the game and isn't necessary at all. Also the CoD Points are for cosmetics as well. There's a lot of shitty things you can and should say about Vanguard, but it is not pay to win.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

Fair enough, at least we have to give them that. But that means it's a platform for people to show off they have more money than others and gladly show they wasted it on useless digital nonsense. Not the audience I'd like to play games with.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 17 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

It's for people with more money than brains.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Hey some of us are poor and this statement still describes us

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

It's why we're poor

[–] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago

When people may get into a competitive game, data shows that they commit to it as their primary game.

It becomes a part of their identity. You see things like Leage of Legends going strong despite a slow down in new players - people just commit to it for better or for worse, likely because most of the skills they’ve gained in it and friends they’ve made will not transfer to other games. Even other FPS games have different nuances that are non trivial once a player becomes serious about winning.

Take Wild Rift vs Mobile Legends Bang Bang. MLBB is objectively a worse rip off of League of Legends and the Chinese game Glory of Kings, but it was first to market on mobile. Now that League has released their mobile version with immense polish and quality, many mobile moba gamers just aren’t interested - they’re already totally invested in their main game, despite it being proved in court that it’s a cheap copy. (Not cheap as in $$$ though)

When you’re a kid, spending time on any competitive game will be fun (if you can handle the baseline toxicity) since you will start bad at most of them. When you get older there is a real cost to switching, you will not have as much fun until you build up the years of muscle memory that would be needed to even approach your skill at the previous game.

Because of the lock in, if a competitive game finds a sizeable enough player base and lasts a good handful of years, the devs essentially get free rein to milk their cow as they see fit.

[–] MaliciousKebab@sh.itjust.works 24 points 15 hours ago

You don't. You play single player games like me and get to experience cool stories instead of dopamine lacking rage inducing PvP games.

[–] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Some dudes seem to be required to buy every COD game and every new sports game every year and that’s it until they eventually try to sell it all as a bundle on Facebook Marketplace.

I know this is a steam page, but y’know.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

I'm a person sensitive to that stuff too. I love to have collections complete. I used to buy every special edition of assassin's creed but I should have stopped after black flag. I used to buy games fully, with all DLC's because I needed it to be complete. Even the expensive useless skins, for single-player games. It's so stupid. And most oft he times I wouldn't even finish the game and wouldn't even start on the extra purchased content. Same with boardgames on kickstarter. I have several games with all expansions and extras still in plastic, for several years.

But I'm done with this shit. I stopped buying boardgames because I have more than enough and I pirate videogames and purchase them only if I spent enough time enjoying the game.

But recently I purchased the latest Hitman game because I enjoyed the pirated version. When bought, it was only half a game because the pirated version had all the DLC's. So I refunded it, I'm not going to spend money for only half a game, then to have to spend more to get the complete game.

Indie games I buy, AAA games I pirate and most of them I won't even play longer than 3-5 hours because they are shit. Happy they didn't get my money, I feel scammed by the industry for way too long.

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