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[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

No need other than to take a quick glance south is all IMO.

[–] Pacino@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Canada used to have a problem with gun owners selling their handguns on the black market. We are talking about Canadians with a valid PAL licence.

They purchased guns. Sold them. Profit. Easy as pie.

Winnipegger bought guns legally, sold them to gangs

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/theodore-mantas-firearms-trafficking-1.4357623

A 22-year-old Airdrie man is accused of buying guns and selling them to criminals.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/airdrie-alert-straw-purchasing-firearms-brady-fisher-1.5569889

Philip Edward Sarrasin, 26, is accused of running a straw purchasing scheme, where he legally bought multiple handguns which later turned up for sale on the criminal market.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/gun-firearm-glock-straw-purchasing-trafficking-weapons-alert-1.4924037

Straw buyers were involved in two recent busts in northern Alberta that took illegal guns off the streets. The man, who was arrested on May 9, bought five handguns between November and December last year and resold them.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alert-guns-investigations-weapons-drugs-straw-buyers-1.5145282

An Edmonton man who pleaded guilty received an eight-year prison sentence Thursday for his role in an illegal weapons trafficking scheme.

Shipowich had a restricted firearm licence when he purchased 40 restricted firearms between June and September 2016.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-man-gets-8-years-in-prison-for-role-in-weapons-trafficking-scheme-1.4676590

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The good news? That problem is now over. It's not happening anymore. The price of handguns on the black market has increased, which is a good sign.

The bad news? Most guns are now only coming from the United States. And the United States doesn't want to address the problem.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I get what the article is going for, but the author premises hand gun owners carrying it on themselves, which we cannot do. That being said yes handguns are used to put holes in paper, or people, so they really aren't needed, I don't like the idea of outright banning them, but instead making the acquisition process much more thorough

[–] BootLoop@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The process for getting handguns was very thorough. But now there is no process and you can't buy them. The article 8s 5 years old.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It wasn't thorough enough in my opinion, the testing was too easy, the rpal course didn't have nearly enough hands on. There are a bunch of ways the licensing process could be improved upon

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I don’t know if they changed it, I think they did, but I just did rpal and it was very hands on.

We went through actually practicing safe storage, different locking mechanisms, cases, all major handgun actions, etc. There was a very strong focus on handling and storing them safely.

I will agree the tests weren’t super hard.

[–] CocaineShrimp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

It might vary depend on where you were taught and resources available. My instructor had all sorts of types of firearms out and we had hands-on time with all of them; but we only talked about the storage requirements

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Sure but it's still only a few weekends long of a course, and there should be actual practical at the range

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’ve only seen them on farms

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Affirmative.

A rifle is too bulky and loud to bring in a stall/shoot at point blank.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is so confusing because; handguns are just as loud, rodent control is best dealt with an air powered gun, and unless you're going out to specifically do that task you wouldn't be bringing your tool.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Shooting a horse or a cow not rodents.

I don’t understand the last part.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't think you know many farmers. They are not shooting their animals. Slaughterhouses do that part and they usually drown or use the pneumatic bolt made famous in No Country for Old Men.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I just said it’s the only time I’ve seen handguns, doesn’t mean I’ve seen a lot in Canada.

*cops notwithstanding

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago

Gotcha my b.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You mean like putting an animal out of its misery? Well the proper way to do that would be to call a vet, but if you wanted to shoot it, a rifle would not necessarily be too bulky

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

That’s been my only experience with hand guns

Also because you mentioned vet but I don’t think they do it here. Vets can be licensed for a hand gun in the UK for such an occasion. - Source I helped a friend study.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I gotta say, today I'm looking very differently at these articles I've read 5 years ago too. I don't want to be afraid of a rando pulling a gun on me because I looked at them the wrong way, or having petty robberies get deadly. At the same time I'm looking at Mango Mussolini down south and can't help but feel some desire of having an AR15 around. I almost don't believe I'm actually thinking this but here we are. 😒

[–] astutemural@midwest.social 4 points 2 days ago

You can have both. "Well-regulated militia" and all that. A community group that trains and keeps guns in a central secure location in case of war etc is a very far cry from giving everyone a 9mm for funsies. Good luck convincing your government to let you do that tho.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Because everyone who needs - really needs - one, will have it issued by the employer. Speaking as former infantry, if your employer does not give you a pistol, you do not need a pistol. If you insist on having a pistol when you do not need a pistol, your problem is more personal than gun laws. Simple-as.

If Americans invade, I have a rock. They'll bring the gun to me. They'll probably leave it somewhere, actually, while re-tying their flourescent Nikes.

[–] IndridCold@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If the US invades, a little hand gun isn't going to help at all.

Hunting rifles would be much better for long range sniping. I'd rather have a shotgun if it's closer combat. We can get those easily (all things considered).

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

And an FN-P90 without the muzzle extension is also much more appropriate in an urban-warfare situation than any handgun.

150 rounds in 50-round magazines and in-stock storage for two magazines, UN ammunition that has limited range to avoid secondary fatalities, extremely short bullpup length for tight environments, two-handed use so it isn’t easily ripped from your grasp… the list goes on and on.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Why would they invade when they can just embargo. We couldn't get anything in or out if they said no.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 days ago (8 children)

It’s a good thing that there’s no illegally imported guns in Canada, otherwise this might just punish legal gun owners.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

At the end of the day we need to look at why guns are being imported illegally and address the root cause

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[–] Boing@lemmy.ca -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

this needs to go away and open the handgun market again for legal gun owners. They are not the problem smuggling from the US is. The Liberals have neutered the whole sport shooting community by banning all these sales and imports. No new shooters can join therefore the sports are slowly going to die as shooters stop attending or lose interest in the game because no new blood in entering the sport. In 2018 it was calculated that Shooting sports in Canada was over an $8.5 billion a year for Hunting and Sport Shooting combined. America is not going to invade Canada🤣 If it did it would be over before you even knew it was happening. While our Military is well trained we are under funded, under staffed and under equipped.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A conventional war between Canada and the US will be over in days, if not hours. I'm not sure America could win an unconventional (guerilla) war with Canada.

[–] Boing@lemmy.ca -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

First off We are Allies, this is FOOLISH Second the only way the US will take Canada is ECONOMICALLY Because the LIBERALS have RUINED CANADA and BANKRUPT CANADA
I am a retired Veteran and just thinking about this is Awful

What is going to happen in Canada when a Democrat President gets voted in the States, whenever that happens? All this damage that Carney has caused is going to have huge ramifications in Canada.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wars can be fought on multiple fronts in different ways. We are currently in a trade war with America, started by them, as well as having them threaten and dismiss our sovereignty. This is not the act of an ally. Much like how relations with Germany are currently good, we can considering repairing the relationship with America when theis war and these acts of aggression are over.

I literally have family across America from north to south and east to west. That is no reason to put up with the hostility their nation is showing ours.

[–] Boing@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Big war tactician are you, have lots of time in the trenches? I am well aware of our trade situation and I wouldn't call it a war by any means. That's just the legacy media fear mongering the sheep Bhhhaaaa The Actions of our PM of not communicating with the President and by flying all over the world and delivering huge Nothing Burgers back to Canada. He had made 1 US trip and very little attempts to make any real deals with Trump himself.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What's the point of negotiating with Trump? We had a trade deal negotiated with him that went into effect 5 years ago. Now he's doing all the shit we've seen for this whole year. 5 years is yesterday in political and economic terms. Also, you are wrong. He visited in May and October, so 2 visits in 7 months. And people all over the world have tried to make deals with Trump. Almost none of them have worked out at all, let alone well.

As for an actual war, with armies meeting in the field? I don't need to be a tactician to see that trying to go toe to toe with the country that spends more than the next 9 largest militaries in the world, which does not include Canada, is a fools errand. I also don't think our military leaders are fools. I'd be completely unsurprised to learn that they have a plan for guerilla warfare should America try to invade. In spite of their military spending, they haven't been successful against those since Vietnam, and we are uniquely positioned to bring a guerilla war into their territory.

[–] Boing@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So I was wrong on one thing. Meh Now like it or lump it Trump is playing by his rule book and it is full of loop holes and he is using everyone especially the **"For National Security" **one

Now Mag. Retard onto the War and Military. We would never have a military attack against the US or at least not a Canadian sanctioned attack. The US will only take Canada by Economic means and they can wait us out.

Do you know How many countries in the world are still having troubles with Trumps Tariffs? Major trade disputes Doesn't seem like all over the world

China

  • Tariffs: New 2025 tariffs on Chinese goods started at 10% in February and escalated to a total of 130% by November, not including the expanded metal tariffs.
  • Trade talks: Negotiations are ongoing between Washington and Beijing, leading to a temporary reduction of some tariffs as of May 2025, which was later extended.
  • Retaliation: China has responded with its own tariffs on U.S. goods and new export controls, particularly on critical rare earth minerals.

Canada

  • Tariffs: Canada has been heavily affected by the new tariffs, particularly in its steel, aluminum, and automotive sectors. This led to a brief trade dispute in March 2025 that saw Canada impose its own retaliatory measures, although some were later removed.
  • Negotiations: Intense negotiations with the U.S. have led to some relief for goods compliant with the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA).
  • However, as of September 2025, Canadian tariffs on U.S. steel, aluminum, and automobiles remain in effect, as do the U.S. tariffs on those products.
  • EDIT We all know how this is going now Thanks to Doug Ford and Now David Eby in all of his wisdom is planning on running ads.

European Union

  • Tariffs: The U.S. imposed baseline tariffs, and in July 2025, reached a temporary agreement to cap the rates for the EU at 15% on most goods.
  • Negotiations: The agreement includes continued talks on other tariffs, with the EU suspending its own retaliatory countermeasures.

Brazil

  • Tariffs: Brazil faces some of the highest tariff rates in the world, with a 50% reciprocal tariff on most goods.
  • Negotiations: Negotiations are ongoing, with a delay announced in July 2025 to increase tariffs further.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

You mention 3 countries in your list. Care to give your opinions on the other 87 countries?

Also, I never said Canada would attack America. America has already started a trade war and threatened to annex us. I wouldn't rule out that devolving into something faster or more aggressive from the guy who wondered why nuclear missiles were just left sitting in silos instead of using them and renamed the Department of Defense to the department of War.

[–] Boing@lemmy.ca 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Your list is out of date, there are only 3 countries still having troubles with Trumps tariffs.

You mentioned guerrilla warfare and attacks against the US. You are not going to make a very good soldier, Major Retard, with a memory like yours. Are you going to need a service monkey while in service or are you even fit for service?

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

India is still in the process of resolving their tariffs with America. That's just the one I was aware of from recent news. So now we're up to at least 4. How many times do I have to prove you wrong while you provide nothing to support your claims?

Oh, which wars has America won against guerilla forces? The laughable War on Terror? Where Trump arranged the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan and handed the country to the Taliban, one of the initial belligerents in the war? Or Iraq, where it collapsed to one of the variety of IS groups mere years after they withdrew?

Once again, your opinions are presented as facts with nothing to back it up except your deeply held beliefs topped off with slurs. You remind me of the quote, "A lie is halfway round the world before the truth has got its boots on." And I'm bored of refuting your opinions with contradicting facts, and I can't be bothered to stoop to your level with the name calling.

[–] Boing@lemmy.ca 1 points 16 hours ago

I don't even know who I am talking to half the time when I am on here the names are so small Lemmy needs avatars so I can tell what crazy you are, if we are up to 4 that's a lot less than the original isn't it? .. how many did you say there were? I also get lost wandering around here as well LOL now I know how my father feels Where were we... What do I need to back up. Afghanistan? Was Trump supposed keep the troops there in a country that has been fighting since Christ was a Cowboy, Man the Russians tried to win that war and they pulled out of there in 1988-89 because it was a no win war and Trump knew this and was tired was seeing lives wasted so he started the end of the end. Sleepy Joe didn't seem to have a problem taking possession of the Trump agreement to withdraw troops and hand all the military equipment over to the enemy. Don't like the name calling don't start it.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca -5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Because keeping someone in jail for a lifetime costs a lot of taxes and many people don't like to pay taxes.