The correct word would have been "threatens"...
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Please fuck off. Let Tim Walz run
I want Jasmine Crocket or AOC. Waltz will do though.
Honestly? Fuck it. Corporate Dems are pushing Newsom hard; I'd love to see Kamala wrestle with being abandoned by everyone she gave up any morals for.
Ensure we have no chance of winning.
I love how everybody is assuming that there will be a “next election”. I’m not sure that’s guaranteed. Except, maybe, in the way that Russia still has elections.
I mean, I know you can be too alarmist about things, but there’s a very clear and obvious direction of travel in the US right now.
Doomerism helps nothing
Doomerism would be if there were an “…and therefore it’s pointless doing anything” at the end.
I’d say the thing that helps nothing is a casual assumption of “if we campaign well enough, then we’ll win the next election and everything will be fine”, as opposed to “we are sleepwalking into a fascist dictatorship and we need to take that seriously”.
You don't need to spell out that last bit for it to have the same effect, as their whole attitude implies it
I’ve seen no attitude in this thread which suggests that people are doing anything other than assuming that the next US presidential election will happen and be business as usual.
One need only look at the start of this very thread to be proven wrong about that... it's almost as if my comment on the doomerism was not spawned from nothing.
The correct word would have been “threatens”
Please fuck off. Let Tim Waltz run
Honestly? Fuck it. Corporate Dems are pushing Newsom hard; I'd love to see Kamala wrestle with being abandoned by everyone she gave up any morals for.
Ensure we have no chance of winning
I will splinter the two party system into a thousand little pieces. Mark my words.
That’s every top-level post above mine. Which suggests to you that the poster is concerned about Trump subverting or cancelling the election to finalise installing himself as a dictator?
I was talking about YOURS. Holy shit
Okay, I’m completely lost now. You read my comment and said that it was unhelpful becuase the fact that my comment existed means that it was unnecessary for me to add my commnet to my comment?
I honestly have no clue what you’re trying to say at this point or whether you even think that stating that US elections are in danger is a good, bad, or neutral thing.
I don't disagree with you, but I feel like people jump to that scenario without describing the steps to get there. How do you see unfolding? How do different opposition groups respond such as the DNC? What about blue states? How does the administration handle it without losing popular consensus? Does it even matter? If they use the military, how do they get the military stay the path when the populous begins to reject their intervention?
Trump is sending "election observers" to California because of prop 50 and to New York because of Mamdani. It's reasonable to be very concerned about future election integrity. ICE has a larger budget than the Marines. They've openly ignored courts. They have fully abandoned the rule of law.
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How do you see unfolding?
Martial law to respond to ice agents being killed or police turning against them.
They’re already trying to instigate this.
How do different opposition groups respond such as the DNC?
“The Supreme Court says it’s ok, so our hands are tied, but we’re very upset.”
They already have the Supreme Court on their team.
What about blue states?
Governors will either roll over or start a hot civil war.
Which do you think they’ll choose?
How does the administration handle it without losing popular consensus?
By arresting and murdering protesters.
They’ve already identified vague groups like antifa as domestic terrorists.
If they use the military, how do they get the military stay the path when the populous begins to reject their intervention?
If you give ICE a large enough budget, they can act as a new military. And by firing non-loyal brass for not being able to do enough pushups and replacing them with loyalists, you can keep the military from intervening under the guise of neutrality.
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I will splinter the two party system into a thousand little pieces. Mark my words.
Please. We need election reform.
Kamala, with all due respect, please get mental health treatment for your apparent psychopathy.
JFC don't. We don't even want to hear you. I would rather have AOC as a choice over you.
AOC would be a stellar choice IMO, but 90% of the 1% would probably be against her, and that's about half of all the money in USA.
Social democracies in Scandinavia work DESPITE being undermined by the rich, so the political shrewdness and tenacity that would be required of her is insane. She would need a lot of backup from the population, and the population will need patience.
Because rebuilding the institutions in USA to their former standard is already a lot of work, but rebuilding them to the standard of a proper social democracy is something USA has never seen before, and will be very difficult.
For starters it requires USA to become an actual democracy instead of the dysfunctional democracy that USA many Americans praise as divine and sent from heaven. A multi party system is a must for true democracy, and until USA has at least 8 parties represented in congress, it is not really a functioning democracy at all.
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who is in her circle telling her that this is a good idea? Does she not have any close friends who can speak plainly to her?
You would think having lost to an actual piece of shit would be enough of a reality check. Just stop... ffs. The best thing Kamala can do is fade into obscurity like Al Gore.
No.
If the Democrats run the same platform/campaign as they did before she'll lose again.
Democrats REALLY need to get it through their thick skulls that the days of campaigning on working alongside people across the aisle are over. that the days of uniting a country are over. Remember, the other side has already KILLED democratic politicians. they even KILL people on their own side they don't agree with.
they need to take the position that while a certain group of people will never support them, they'll still work for them but not with them.
It's almost like they're losing on purpose...
The off-the-books cash must flow.
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Fuck off!
I swear a few weeks ago she was leaving politics
fucking delusional
Fuck it, let her. She had to drop out of the 2020 primary before voting started because she was on track to lose every single state, and she clearly hasn't become more electable since then. All she could possibly do is siphon some votes and donor money off Newsom or Buttigieg. If that's what she wants to do, I fully support that.
Holy fuck, listen I plugged my nose and voted for her last time just like I did with Hillary and Biden, but I am absolutely not voting for Harris a second time. If that happens, the only "enabler" is the Democratic establishment and I don't want to fucking hear "vote blue no matter who" after all this Mamdani shit. Stupid god damn fucking liberals, Jesus Christ.
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I completely wish she won last election... but there's no way we're taking a risk on her again.
I'm not a huge fan of Newsom, but at least he's been loudly attacking this current administration. Maybe she has too, but I don't hear from her in my news cycles.
Unless some progressive comes out and surprises everyone, Newsom will likely be my choice.
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Please no. Someone else.
I will not vote again for Kamala Harris, nor for any other ordinary, boring, middle-of-the-road Democrat. "Vote blue no matter who" brought us to this point, where Democrats are so spineless and compromised, only a handful of elected Dems are willing to oppose fascism. Never again, for me. Give me a candidate worth voting for — that's the only way to get my vote.
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