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    [–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 2 points 45 minutes ago

    And then my iOS skills...

    [–] Aetherion@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)
    [–] Xkaliber@lemmy.world 1 points 51 minutes ago

    Commando... Arnie has great one-liners

    [–] The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world 25 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

    My Linux "skills" are more like:

    I'm just looking stuff up.

    It's worse when you know that you changed a configuration somewhere but can't find it. When you do find it, what source of wizardry is this. With a helpful ###changed this to fix xyz, hopefully it works this time###

    What did I do!

    [–] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 15 hours ago

    All the better, you know how to find help.

    You might even be a better windows fixer than someone certified simply for that. That, and you'll share your learning process with that person asking for help.

    [–] w3ird_sloth@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

    LMAO This is how I feel getting tech support for my work computer. The dude treats me like an idiot and I'm over here like WTF Windows is do weird with all its crusty old BS πŸ˜–

    [–] m3t00@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

    I remember that!

    ERROR: Root device mounted successfully, but /sbin/init does not exist. Bailing out, you are on your own now.

    [–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

    Maybe no problem when it's a problem within a multi-platform program like a browser or Steam

    My favorite action movie. I love Commando so much. Cool pic in the meme.

    [–] HouseWolf@pawb.social 23 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

    Being "good with computers" is always relative, and to most people computers are basically black magic.

    Here's some stuff I've seen other people do.

    Had a coworker buy a whole new laptop because their Google account had signed out and they couldn't remember the password. (obviously buying a new laptop didn't help)

    My mother couldn't figure out how to hang up a MS Teams call so she just closed the lid on her laptop, which she still assumes turns the whole PC off even after explaining to her multiple times it doesn't...

    My former boss call me into work on a day off to "recover" the main software we used since it had disappeared from the computer. It was still there, an update had just changed the desktop icon.

    And most recently a buddy installed multiple viruses on their computer after I told them to 'backup their files' before doing a clean Windows install. I had forgot to mention that backing up their files just meant coping them to another drive...they immediately started searching up shady "file backup" programs from random sites on the internet.

    [–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 7 points 16 hours ago

    At this point, it is weaponized incompetence. You tell someone once or twice that closing the lid is not turning off the power and that should be it.

    [–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

    I was just explaining to my girlfriend that people’s ignorance about computers provides a space where even people without advanced skills can make a decent living doing support.

    Like, not everyone can get a gig as an advanced sysadmin making bank, but you can probably find some tech support roles that pay really well to support folks who essentially think technology is magic.

    [–] HouseWolf@pawb.social 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

    The other side of that ignorance is if you can do simple tasks they also assume you have the skills to be the next big-tech genius.

    The amount of times I've been asked to make someone a website or app...

    The amount of times I've been asked to make someone a website or app...

    Oh, so you can Programm? Surely you know how to make this cool idea using AI I just had!

    Most people dont even know, that there are like 50 different fields that are somewhere in the space of IT/Programming and of these fields only a quite small amount of do develop apps or websites.

    [–] germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 19 hours ago

    90% they didn’t reboot

    10% path issues

    [–] jj4211@lemmy.world 35 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

    The things is you really can't be that good with windows.

    Sure you can get good with registry and group policy and other stuff that is needlessly complicated to do relatively simple stuff. You can know your way around WMI and .net and powershell...

    But at some point, the software actively hides the specifics of what is wrong. You can't crack open something to see why it's showing some ambigious hexadecimal code or a plain screen. You can't add tracing to step through their code to see what unexpected condition they hit that they didn't prepare to handle. On Linux you are likely to be able to plainly see a stack trace, download the source code, maybe trace it, modify the source code.

    Windows is like welding the hood shut and wondering why mechanics have a hard time with the car.

    [–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

    As someone who works as a sysadmin/systems engineer in a Windows environment, I find your analogy is a bit extreme. Not denying the issue, it's a constant frustration and problem. It's just that I find you can get a lot farther than most people think.

    So less "hood's welded shut" and more "Why the fuck are the headlights a single unit? I just need to fix the high beams! Why is the transmission welded shut? Who in the fuck wired the radio and power steering together? And why in the hell is none of this documented anywhere?" Maybe that's worse, tbh. You can get very deep, but most of it is horrors.

    [–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

    Guess it's a matter of degree, that was the sort of stuff I was alluding to in the first part, that you have all this convoluted instrumentation that you can dig into, and as you say perhaps even more maddening because at some times it's needlessly over complicating something simple, and then at just the wrong time it tries to simplify something and ends up sealing off just the flexibility you might need.

    [–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 5 points 19 hours ago

    Yes indeed! There are a lot of tricks old Windows admins still hold onto to get stuff done and sometimes it's so damn frustrating (like resorting to BITS to move files at times).

    [–] utopiah@lemmy.world 28 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

    My mindset totally changed few years ago when I started being honest with myself and with others.

    It's true, I'm in that meme... I don't know much about Windows anymore. Initially I admit I was ashamed about it because I imagined that I'd be judged for it.

    What I did though, instead of trying to be better... was to be honest about it :

    • yes, it's true, I don't know Windows or MacOS as well I know Linux... but there is a reason WHY. Explain why, namely the consequence for my freedom, and theirs, totally changed the discussion.

    One day I even told my friendly neighbors : "Look I could fix your Windows computer but... I'm a professional, and I don't know Windows so much. So I would have to look solutions up and that will take time while going against my principle, so I would have to charge you for it, and it's not cheap. Instead, if you switch to Linux I'll help you, and for free." Guess what, they not only tried but they didn't even need my help! They even, back then so few years ago, install WiFi driver via the command line on their own.

    So... yes, be in that picture, sure, just don't be ashamed about it if you believe it's for good reason. Do not be afraid of explaining others too and who knows, they might not only understand but even want to tag alone on this constant adventure for collective empowerment!

    [–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 11 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

    My Windows skills are slowly leaving me... and I work in a Windows environment. Thanks for the words of confidence, given how long I've been the computer guy I guess it's a bit of a shot to the ego to be real about it at times!

    [–] utopiah@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

    Attaching less weight to the ego is the best thing that can happen to boost learning :D

    It hurts confidence initially, especially as you land on your ass, but only until you learn something new and empowering, then get excited again! It's one of the most enjoyable rollercoaster IMHO.

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    [–] Crysalim@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

    What distro do you recommend? I know Linux tangentially from my Steam Deck, and am looking to finally swap my PC.

    [–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

    The Linux propaganda here got to me about 2 years ago and I switched to Linux mint. Pretty smooth sailing for day-to-day stuff. However, a few days ago I decided that I wanted to try modding fallout new vegas on my computer and that's been a pain in the ass (still trying to figure it out). The problem is that a lot of the default packages in the mint repositories are outdated and cause a lot of more recently updated programs to malfunction. So I've had to figure out how to get updated packages by using the terminal (first time I've needed to open terminal this entire time) and update them one by one, figuring out which new thing is breaking one by one until everything is working.

    For that reason, I'd recommend going with a distro that doesn't have as much of a lag between updates if you're planning on doing anything like what I described. There's almost certainly ways to do what I'm trying to do that are less tedious/frustrating in mint, but I don't know what the fuck I'm doing, dont understand most of what I'm reading, and there just isn't much out there for my specific issues.

    Despite my gripes, I'm still enjoying Linux more than windows. If something didn't work on windows, and it couldn't be solved with updating drivers or something similar, I'd just give up. Since everything is wide open in Linux, I know that the solution to my problems are achievable if I just do it right. Instead of being told no by my OS, I'm given a list of reasons why something isn't working, and then I can just go and fix it

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    [–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

    I am not "good with computers" I am simply able to use google

    You have to be good at knowing what and how to google.

    [–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago

    "Why is my computer doing X instead of Y?"

    Idk I don't fuck with windows 11. I switched to Linux... But from I can see try A, B then C.

    "That worked thanks"

    [–] xxce2AAb 99 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    "I haven't used Windows in over a decade, so I'm afraid I can't help you" is one of my favorite sentences.

    [–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I do something similar. "Last time I used windows it was Windows 98..."

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    [–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 15 points 1 day ago

    Snap. The problem is you never forget. It's PSD.

    "OK, OK, enough. I can't watch you ham fist this anymore. The reason it says file not found is a DLL it needs isn't found. There used to be this tool, DependencyWalker. Ah there still is. There you go, you are missing that DLL. A search will show us... Yep... That is what we need to install. Oh look it runs."

    [–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 107 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    I helped a family member with their Windows PC a few days ago and, omg, I hate using Windows. It's so bloated and unintuitive. It's a mess, and it seems to get worse every time I use it.

    [–] AshLassay@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    It’s layers and layers of configuration screens, all ducktaped to each other.

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    [–] saltesc@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    One of the reasons I switched was just being sick of dealing with Windows issues, the time spent troubleshooting, having to constantly tinker. And despite all the users out there, the frequency of hitting a dead end and just having to deal with it was common enough.

    So after yet another Windows-fuelled rage and four glasses of wine, "Fuck it! I'll see what everyone's raving about..."

    An hour later...

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    [–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 7 points 19 hours ago

    my friend, who works in networking for a major tech company, can't even help me with what seems like a simple Windows issue sometimes because of how fucked up Microsoft has made Windows

    his solution to most microsoft-product problems these days is to just use a different brand

    [–] last_philosopher@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    "Remember when I promised I'd fix your computer?"
    "That's right! You did!"
    "I lied."

    [–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    What kind of sociopath wouldn’t offer to install Linux for them?

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    [–] janNatan@lemmy.ml 10 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

    Your friend's Windows skills:

    [–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 13 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

    That's right, it goes in the square hole

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