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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 4 points 38 minutes ago

January 6 gave the Nazis hope and basically exposed how easy it is to topple the government if they have law enforcement on their side.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 19 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Look, all you have to do is accept my one and only axiom: Most people on this planet are total and absolute idiots.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I agree, and I think I'm among them too (no I don't say that because I voted Trump, I'm not American)

[–] varnia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Admit it, you voted third party! Just so you know: thats like voting for Trump but indirectly.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 1 points 53 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] bampop@lemmy.world 4 points 47 minutes ago

varnia is suggesting you didn't vote for the Democrats. Which, considering you're not American, seems highly likely.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 18 points 6 hours ago

Perception is reality.

Control news, social media, and church and you can distort/gaslight reality.

Only the better educated can sometimes see through bullshit.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 7 hours ago

I don't understand why AIPAC, Citizens United, exorbitant health care and education costs, tax rates for the rich, slavery in prisons, and every other goddamned ridiculous thing that other first world countries don't have wasn't a deal breaker.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 35 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Why would people think it was a big deal when the entire news media played it down, and then the guy who did it was allowed to run for the highest political office again.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 4 hours ago

i noticed its coordinated with right wing influencers/grifters also downplayed or dint bother discussing the insurrection. its not by accident its all coordinated through troll farms.

[–] freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yup, the Republican party allowed Trump to go after the nomination, and his Republican opponents in the primaries never brought Jan 6 up for the disgusting act it was. Instead they all protected Trump by repeating the Big Lie.

Imagine Fox News right now, if Jan 6 had been Democrats and Obama. Seriously, they would be screaming for the dismantling of the Democratic party.

And that's the difference, the Left has NOTHING like Fox News and Newsmax, MSNBC doesn't even get CLOSE.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

the closest thing to a left wing on TV at least, is DEMocracy now. and its not even that left, plus its also on late night where nobody else watches it.

every other one is center right or right wing, that glorfies the military to keep up enlistment numbers. movies and shows: copaganda, and right-wing ganda helps too.

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

American US vs them team mentality slammed into their heads from birth

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

You’re looking for the word “indoctrination”. Also apparently calling indoctrination of children “child abuse” is an “opinion”.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 138 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

If the pussy grabbing thing wasn't, nothing ever will be.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 117 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Or the making fun of the disabled news reporter. Or the not renting to black people, or the using a charity as his personal piggy bank. I'm sure the list goes on and on

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 63 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Or trying to have 5 young brown children executed for a crime they were later proven to have not committed.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 31 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

Honestly the racism I (sadly) understand. But to see the support for him not only continue but increase after violently trying to overthrow the government was truly a shock. For a brief moment it looked like he lost the support of Mitch McConnell and Lindsay Graham among other "traditional" Republicans but within days it was back to business as usual.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 1 points 58 minutes ago

The people we are talking about are seeking simple answers, because they are overwhelmed by the complexity of our times. A strong man telling them what to think, an autocrat telling them that elections are unnecessary ballast, a führer telling them who to hate. Someone who leads them by their emotions, not by their intellect. The less educated the people are, the better this works, because the educated and those who have been in contact with other cultures know better than to fall for the simple path that demonizes an outgroup - they know it's not a solution. The US education system has been under attack for a long time, while the economy did their best to modify higher education to their needs, warping higher education from something which offers critical thinking skills to a conveyor belt feeding the industry.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Because he wins elections. Once he dies and no Trump Jr. can get the same number of votes, they will turn their backs on the Trumps and denounce them.
I am telling you. This all falls apart without the one guy. Just you watch.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 4 hours ago

the question is will the gop fall apart with him, most of the OLD guard republicans are gone, or neutered. i doubt putin will stop the propaganda for right wing on social media though.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

mitch and lindsey lost control of trump, and jumped shipped after that. mitch was afraid of getting continually be the blame by the magas, so he had another patsy take his place, HE uses "his freezes" to avoid talking about anything.

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[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 43 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I've repeated this many times.

After the 'pussy' tape came out, a Conservative woman went on The View TV show to defend Trump. One of the other women on the panel kept repeating 'pussy' over and over. Finally the Conservative woman demand that the other panelist stop using that vulgar term.

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 96 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

I disagree (with the title but agree with you the post), Jan 6th should truly be the dealbreaker. Why? Cause it’s not even politics, it’s simple rules of games.

If you can’t accept when you lose, you don’t get to play anymore.

They had 4 years to jail him over treason and they didn’t. I said it before and I’ll say it again, Biden should have jailed him for Jan 6th.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 58 points 11 hours ago

Biden should have used the bully pulpit and pushed hard to prosecute. Merrick Garland is technically the one who sat on his ass for 2 years before getting started, which is how Trump was able to delay through the election then throw out his own cases.

Based on the strong bipartisan coverup of the Epstein Files, clearly there are reasons Biden’s donors didn’t want to prosecute one of “their own.” So they didn’t, because the people don’t get represented in America, only capital owners do.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 20 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Biden should have had him and the rest of the isurrectionists executed for trying to overthrow throw democracy. Jailing them just changes their platform for inciting rebellion.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 16 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

All the trumpers would have risen up to do violence, but fuck it: execute them, too.

[–] KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The only reason the Jan 6th rioters got in the Capitol is because Donald Trump specifically chose not to call in the National Guard to protect the Capitol. If MAGA had attempted a second insurrection when Trump was jailed and Biden was in office, they wouldn't have gotten anywhere.

This is the kinda stuff I laughed about pre-last election when MAGA was calling for civil war if Kamala won. It's not funny now, but the truth remains. An outright seizure of the Capitol/White House/SCotUS is nigh impossible unless our leader wants it. Now, the Jan 6th crowd was exceptionally stupid in not even being able to navigate the Capitol floor; but navigation abilities won't matter when you get gunned down approaching the entrance.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 4 hours ago

also racism, they have to be careful around White people who are committing crimes too, without angering white voter base in general. alot of them pretend to be on the left, but act very wierdly around POCs.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago

It is what they plan for the rest of us. Fascism has always been a sort of "blindly obey the leader or die" sort of thing.

The second major problem is that a whole bunch of people are then killed, first for being the wrong ethnicity, or killed for having the wrong beliefs, or maybe you just live on land that some rich asshole wants to steal. These people will never even be given a chance to "obey" but will likely be told that they are being killed for disobedience. Or someone will be told.

And the lie will be believed, because it will be convenient to do so.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Many conservatives have convinced themselves that the 6th was a false flag operation by the libtards. For "reasons"

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

Most of them won't talk about it, that's how they are dealing with it

[–] Kinokoloko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

This is the one I've heard. By my own father, no less. I had no idea how to respond to it.

Someone once said, "You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into." Something along those lines, anyways. That expression has saved me from many a pointless argument.

[–] JamieDub86@piefed.social 38 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Because, for his supporters, anything but them getting their own way is an injustice.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 24 points 11 hours ago

He's the narcissist's hero.

[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 12 points 9 hours ago

Because human brains are more frail than we think they are, and propaganda works amazingly well.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago

Because American anti-democracy people envisioned themselves as the pro-democracy HK protestors who stromed the LegCo Building.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 10 points 10 hours ago

Simple. Back then were still naive enough to believe that there would be justice served.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 11 hours ago (8 children)

Until my final breath I'll never understand how George W. Bush wasn't a dealbreaker for every future Republican president. And then they voted for Trump of all people.

Like that's it. We humans have failed evolution.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 4 hours ago

it isnt because evangelicals are afraid of losing thier influence in government, plus thier hold on the US, and oppression of POCs and lgbtq+ people, and are afraid of retribution and reprisal from the latter 2 groups.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

White Americans lost their fucking minds when Obama was elected

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 23 points 12 hours ago

"those people are ignorant"

-My conservative mother, pretending Trump didn't work tirelessly for years enraging them, tell them to do exactly what they did, and then gleefully watch for 2 hours while they did it.

In other words, she thinks trump had nothing to do with it, as laughable as that is.

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