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[–] observes_depths@aussie.zone 2 points 13 minutes ago

The Democrats were been so certain it was they nominated an black asian woman. I like Harris but obviously rednecks aren't ready for that.

[–] notsure@fedia.io 3 points 8 hours ago

...me, neither...

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 12 hours ago

Because half the fucking country is treating it like sports.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 17 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Mine was George Floyd. When I saw so many people stand up and say that man deserved death over a bounced check I knew they lost their damn mind.

[–] joan@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody deserves to die... Even if they're.. uh... charlie kirk... No I think that one's ok.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

My take on Charlie is that I'm not surprised.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 13 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Propaganda

Fox news Oann Newsmax

All propaganda channels that literally only publish lies. Fox news sued (and won) for the right to call itself a news channel yet lie their asses off without any legal problems

I'm just amazed that nobody saw this coming since at least 2-3 decades ago

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

waves hands I've been watching this train for decades... no one listens.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 42 points 23 hours ago (9 children)

I'll never understand how Biden just let that go. He should have made it impossible for Trump or any of the other criminals from the previous administration to participate in politics again.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 31 points 22 hours ago

A legacy of cordiality and decorum that allowed fascism back in.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

They all should have been on a plane to Gitmo before the sun set on inauguration day.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 17 hours ago

If not then, the very instant the supreme court ruled that anything the president does is legal as long as it's an official act.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

If I were Biden, locking all those traitors up would have been priority number one. Had they done that, the world would be a much better place.

[–] end_stage_ligma@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Limp dick energy dating back to Andrew Johnson?

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[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Well the answer to "why did people still support Trump after Jan 6th" is actually "Jan 6th."

Those people that came to DC and walked to the Capitol and stormed out are Americans who were a) pissed off and b) willing and able to travel and march and attack on behalf of Trump.

That's not nothing in terms of power and influence. And it's indicative of a BUNCH of people who met condition (a) but not (b). Like probably an order of magnitude or more.

Since no Republican stepped up to steal those supporters from Trump by pointing out how absolutely un-American Jan 6th was, they stayed loyal to him. So the politicians followed, the owners followed, and the media followed.

[–] sleepundertheleaves@infosec.pub 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

That's not quite correct. In 2021 we saw quite a few Republicans calling out January 6th as un-American, unacceptable political violence, etc, etc. The prosecution of the J6 ringleaders had wide bipartisan support. Plenty of Republicans tried to take the mantle of leadership from Trump in the belief that Republicans wouldn't support a criminal who'd attempted a coup.

But here's the thing: You're absolutely correct to say a ton of Americans implicitly supported January 6th. There were an enormous number of Americans who believed the 2020 election was stolen, or who, at the very least, had questions about it. There were a lot of conservative Americans who supported J6 because they believed having a conservative President was more important than following the law. And then there were the anons who believed in the Q conspiracy and were cheering on January 6th because they believed Trump was finally, as prophesied, going to declare martial law, dissolve the US government, and purge America of the secret cabal of billionaire Democrat child abusers - and if I remember the polls correctly, roughly one in four Republicans believed in Q.

And almost everyone in the United States - including those Republican Party leaders who tried to take the mantle of leadership from Trump - underestimated how widespread support for J6 was on the right.

And the more Biden's FBI tried to tie Trump to January 6th, tried to get him on whatever charges they could manage, the more Trump looked like a victim of political persecution instead of a failed candidate who couldn't accept defeat. The more Biden pressured social media to censor "election denial", the more it looked like the Biden administration had something to hide.

So as time passed, the "election deniers" got more and more common, and got more and more influence in the Republican Party - and ordinary rank and file Republicans heard over and over again that Trump was a victim of persecution and ordinary conservatives were being censored for supporting him, and became more and more loyal to Trump. Supporting Trump in 2024 became a loyalty test - Republicans supported him because Biden was trying so hard to have him convicted and disqualified from running for office, and choosing another candidate felt like giving in.

And as they rose in power, the Republicans who thought January 6th was unacceptable got quieter and quieter, because it became more and more obvious Trump was going to be the candidate in 2024, and they knew better than to piss him off.

In other words - as disgustingly ironic as it is - Democratic attempts to get justice for January 6th were one of the biggest reasons Trump was reelected in 2024.

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 25 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

There are Americans that believe Trump has never lied. Like ever. About anything. He is truth. Some Americans actually believe this.

[–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

So they have no capacity to think logically, not even a tiny bit? Or do they just have no capacity in remembering stuff?

[–] sploder@lemmy.world 13 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

They don’t want to think. At all. Just listen to what they’re told by fox or Facebook and get comfort in hating some group(s) “ worse than them “ while they believe they’re better than most people. They’re fully delusional.

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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

A Trump voter from 2016 told me that he thought of Trump as a brick he was throwing at the window of The System. He started from the position that the system is broken and needs to be torn down before anything can be improved. I think that’s pretty stupid logic - people routinely underestimate the importance of incremental improvement.

But that’s what the thinking is anyway. The more we hate Trump the happier they are. He exists to knock our teeth out, personally if need be, but more importantly, collectively, as a system. Taking a shit on the floor of Congress? That’s all in the game.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

"Cave man smash!" Is how I refer to that logic.

[–] joan@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

No issue with tearing down the system to me. But people need to realize that Donny's not tearing anything down besides the East wing

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

The republicans have a very robust propaganda machine. They digested and reframed it very quickly.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 17 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

I understand it.

People are paying 30% more to live now than they did before. No one cares about a person's politics if they claim they'll put food on your table.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 14 points 23 hours ago (17 children)

This chart is the whole story. Unfortunately people don't understand how the economy lags behind everything and Trumps recent actions are going to make the surge from COVID checks look like a blip.

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[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 hours ago

Mine was when I was a kid and learned Americans had a right to carry firearms.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

January 6 gave the Nazis hope and basically exposed how easy it is to topple the government if they have law enforcement on their side.

[–] LadyButterfly@reddthat.com 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because so many people genuinely believe the election was stolen. It bewilders me

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Fox News. That's like 90% of the reason. And Trump is a fucking manchild that can't handle reality.

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