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[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 88 points 15 hours ago
[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 30 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

Every time I see those ridiculous "have another one!" ads, I'm happily reminded that, well, if that's the best they can do with all the technology and the money they have, there is still hope.

More likely they have hard numbers saying that for most of their products this approach work, and why bother having a button letting people tell the algorithm they have something already? All that would do is expose them to fewer ads. And you never know, maybe one will eventually give in and buy another toilet seat just in case!

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 8 points 12 hours ago

there is still hope

On the contrary, you should expect them to put more effort into using that stuff in ways that don't benefit you than in ways that do.

Let's go with one example. There's this United Payments Interface (UPI) app called Google Pay.

  • They let you add a comment when paying.

    • go to Google Checkout and download previous years payment data to help with accounting and you don't get the comments along with it. You have to go into the app and open each entry, one-by-one to see what was what.
  • They keep the timing information of when you pay.

    • They also know which tower you were connected to at what time
    • They also have location data from Maps being open at the same time
    • This would tell that they have the ability to let you check the exact position at which you paid
      • But will they let you? No. Even the timeline feature doesn't give accurate history.
        • Because somehow they believe we will think that their database is that inaccurate and we are somehow safe (despite having the driving navigation on at the time)
  • They started removing handy features to access timeline features from desktop.

    • somehow acting like it is making stuff more secure, when all it is doing, is reducing our ability to access our own data, while their "partners" can still do so.
[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Remember when they had a button you could push and it would just order individual items for you? Presumably with no further authentication?

Well, I just learned that while they are discontinued, you can apparently buy an instructional audiobook on them. Possibly I'm being obtuse, but from that listing it seems like it also includes a set of the buttons as well.

[–] swemg@sh.itjust.works 51 points 16 hours ago (4 children)
[–] lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 hours ago

The only two choices where I live are Amazon or Target. I despise Amazon, but I despise Target more because of their betrayal to the LGBTQ+ community. So, while I'm not happy about it, I choose the lesser of two evils (to me) and use Amazon.

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 59 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

I feel like a lot of people who say this don't realize how difficult this actually is for many people who live in different circumstances to them.

If you, like many, live in some urban sprawl ass area, Amazon has become the "weird part/replacement/too unique for physical stores but costs 5 times the amount shipping it in from somewhere else" central.

It's also often more convenient than some other options while being ethically just about on par.

Its like, I can buy this thing from the walmart family, the loblaws family or jeff bezos.

They all have their evil, and it rotates from time to time who is taking the cake.

Like it's certainly a consideration, like I'll sometimes pick a slower option just to not buy from amazon, but then its like.... its from Bestbuy. How much better is Bestbuy to Amazon? or Newegg?

I mean, tbh the whole inauguration has certainly knocked Amazon down a few pegs for sure, so I guess this is sort of a pre that bias.

My point is, there is a shit ton of things any one person can be doing, and different things are more or less important to different people, so do what you can, and don't expect perfection of yourself, because there will be things you do (if you're a person that tries) that the person barking at you for not being perfect in some other aspect will be doing and won't even be aware of what else you do.

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Using Amazon , I'd love to stop using Amazon but unfortunately amazon has killed all competing stores in my area so if I want a product that's more specialized than s*** you would find at an old timey General Store I'm out of luck

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 9 points 11 hours ago

Also their profit margins on their consumer store are razor thin. So it’s not like ordering a toilet seat is making bezos rich. It’s AWS where they make their money. And some estimates have that as like 70 percent of the Internet. You can’t really boycott that.

[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago

It also doesn't have to be all or nothing. Even if there is some specific issue that keeps you bound to Amazon, seeking out alternatives the rest of the time is still an improvement.

I know someone who has extreme difficulty taking pills and who frequently needs pain relievers to function. The only thing they have ever found that works for them is the Walmart brand Tylenol (aka tiny lol). They don't buy anything else from Walmart on principle, but thos pills are a necessity.

That said, in my experience at least, while Amazon's shopping experience has gotten significantly worse over time, smaller local and regional businesses have been making things much better over the last few years. It's easier to find what I need on the website of my local hardware store than Amazon, with prices that are as good or better on most things, and without the glut of trash items clogging my search. I can even get 2 hour delivery if I need it. I can't get a fucking pizza delivered to me but I can have a socket wrench and a change of underwear here at a moment's notice.

I can't say that there is a better option available to everyone for anything they need. But I would bet that there are good alternatives available the vast majority of the time.

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Use eBay.

I needed 7/16" ink ribbon for my antique Burroughs adding machine. Bought it on eBay. Order was fulfilled by Ribbons Unlimited, a small business that just sells ink ribbons for typewriters. Took a week to get it, but I wasn't in that much of a hurry.

[–] johnyreeferseed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I was buying some rolling papers. They were $10 on Amazon. I decided to check eBay, they had the same exact pack but it was $15. Decided to go with the eBay purchase to avoid Amazon. 2 days later I get an Amazon delivery. It's my rolling papers, shipped straight from Amazon with a $5 dollar markup going straight to the eBay seller. So not only did bezos still get his cut but i paid an extra $5 for the privilege.

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

That happens from time to time. Hell, I've even had that happen two weeks ago with Newegg for a rare cable I needed.

Still though, on the whole, you can get in touch with some real brick and mortar style sellers, and often times it's cheaper. I saved like $20 on a pack of water filters for my fridge recently.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

eBay abuses sellers, too.

[–] swemg@sh.itjust.works 4 points 15 hours ago

I understand and agree to some extent. Still good to say it tho, doesn't really sound like barking.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Did Bob Loblaws update his law blog?

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

It's a Canadian national super market chain/brand that owns a ton of supermarkets here.

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Of course. Just give me an alternative that

  1. gives me a definitive delivery date without excessive extra cost
  2. handles returns and warranty claims at least half as smoothly
  3. takes responsibility for missing deliveries
[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

What are people ordering so much of from amazon? I apparently haven't ordered from them since late 2024, and those were a handful of small orders.

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

Shoes. 3d printer filament. A laptop. Occasionally some shelf storage food. A thermal camera. Soldering iron and solder. Cast iron skillet. Pretty much everything that i would like to buy that isnt carried by my local grocery store and is also the only non gas station within 45 minutes of me. Thats assuming the weather is nice and i can actually drive my car the 45 minutes through the half that is pretty decent for roads, and the other half that will blow my tires and bottom out my car if i so much and blink or have a little bit of fog. Rain basically means i update my will before i go for a drive. The other 45 minutes back in fun too.

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Stop living somewhere with choices!!

While I agree that people should not use Amazon, there's a lot of places that it is one of the only options people have to get these types of products because of companies like Amazon, Walmart, target and all the other big retailers that have gone and completely destroyed small and local businesses in alot of communities. Some don't even have a Walmart or Target anymore purely because they came and destroyed everything realized they couldn't make enough money so they shut em down.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 15 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Look, most toilets come with seats. Amazon knows that your fat ass broke one, the cheap shit one you just bought isn't gonna be as good a the OEM one.

You'll be back

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 8 hours ago

Alternately: the mechanism to soft-close the lid fails after a few years.

If I lived by myself, it wouldn't be an issue since I have no trouble gently lowering the lid. But alas, I do not live alone and am thus stuck resorting to mechanical fixes rather than behavioral ones.

[–] Snowcano@startrek.website 3 points 11 hours ago

That’s why I just put em in a subscription, now I don’t have to worry about it.

[–] higgsboson@piefed.social 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I should have known this thread would become toxic on Lemmy. Now I have another keyword I have to filter.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 12 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I love the concept of Lemmy and fediverse, but God I'm getting exhausted with the constantly sanctimonious people.

[–] Jerkface@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

It's my number one reason here for abandoning a thread by far.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 18 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I bought a wedding ring on Etsy and I get like four emails a week for wedding rings…

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 25 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] egrets@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago

The chart suggests that some time late into the day before yesterday, they had about -0.3 husbands.

[–] CompostMaterial@lemmy.world 20 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

It would be really nice if you could mark suggestions as no longer needed or purchased.

[–] higgsboson@piefed.social 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

You used to be able to mark it as a gift or just "do not recommend" ... I used this feature for several years. Is that not a thing anymore?

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I prefer this regular reminder that they are a shower of incompetent wankers.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

It's just a computer following an algorithm. An algorithm that has been found to increase sales.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 13 points 15 hours ago

You know you wanna subscribe-n-save

[–] dan69@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

Are you sure? Your loved ones don’t need one, holidays are soon.

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 11 points 16 hours ago

Why not hang some on the wall as decorative items? Like those stuffed animal heads some people have on their walls?

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

My girlfriend likes to look at weird shit on my amazon account and now I have to be careful browsing in public or at/for work. Most recently she searched for stripper shoes.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

You know you can link accounts as family to share prime right? You don't need to let her on yours. I think it's a limit of two "adults".

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

I got an email a few days ago that they were disabling mine, now I would have to buy my own prime in addition to my wife's. I simply decided not to use Amazon anymore.

[–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 2 points 15 hours ago

Not a loo seat aficionado?

Get on Lee Mack's level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsO7PQPHkAA

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Monthly Auto subscription activated

[–] LordMayor@piefed.social -2 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I can understand Amazon or other online stores for some things but toilet seats?

Come on people. At a physical store you can actually touch a toilet seat and know what it feels like. I guarantee no one needs a particular brand of toilet seat. Also, toilets seats are relatively dense. It’s environmentally unfriendly to have them shipped home.

This applies to many products.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 59 minutes ago* (last edited 58 minutes ago)

Hum? This is about ads showing the thing you already bought, not about toilet seat delivery.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

No, having a dedicated delivery vehicle that drops off hundreds of packages in one trip is waaaaaaay more environmentally friendly than you driving your personal vehicle to and from the store for just one item.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 7 hours ago

what a shittake

people don't necessarily go to buy single stuff off the store, do you? With your argument, why not let Amazon send you rations of everything instead of anyone ever learning to cook, drive, learn a skill, fix stuff, or do anything for themselves.

is it going to to be more efficient to go to store with a list and find things you like/prefer than getting it hauled from wherever their stock is located, packaged with tons of plastic and then possibly having to return it back if you don’t like how it feels/looks/works/breaks down?

sO eCo-FriEnDLy and eFfICiEnT

[–] LordMayor@piefed.social -2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Waiting for a toilet seat to be delivered is really more efficient than getting one in the mean time while you’re already away from home in your car? Or out to dinner near the home store?

Only IF you drive and it’s the only thing you go shopping for and the only reason to drive.

If you really can’t plan your shopping trips efficiently then, maybe.

Walk. Bike. Stop on the way home from work.

[–] higgsboson@piefed.social 9 points 11 hours ago

I know it is hard to imagine other people with lives different than yours, but do try. It might help you understand why they might make choices different from yours.