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Scientists have been studying remote work for four years and have reached a very clear conclusion: “Working from home makes us thrive” (oneworkforce.org)

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[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 days ago

AI article and website

[–] AngularViscosity@piefed.social 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But then how will they make money renting out the office space?

[–] FunctionallyLiterate@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Who they gonna rent it to when the other companies are trying to do the same?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

than local govts wont get any revenue from commuting and businesses, and ceos wont be able to be control freaks and lord of thier subjects.

[–] Magnum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

???

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

How about those of us who can’t due to the nature of our jobs?

[–] FunctionallyLiterate@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well, if you get to work out there in nature then you're already winning! 🤪

[–] 5oap10116@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I work in a windowless lab

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago

Personally I take my time in the office and really hustle remotely. Want to make sure the metrics show its better for me to be home. Honestly though I would love to have an office I could walk to.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eudaimonia

[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

If I was working again I'd rather work at the office. I wouldn't be productive working at home. I need accountability. Not everyone likes working from home

[–] Tahl_eN@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I had the same assumption about myself before 2020. Turns out I'm way less distracted at home because I control the things that would distract me. So I'm much more productive. Was actually a huge surprise to me.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago

that is true, my 2 bros are in tech and they are usually are at thier desks at all times anyways. remotely in public is probably to distracting. its the reverse if your studying a subject though, like as a student. home is too distracting, even writing resumes and cover letters too.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why do you even care? You don't get paid more if you are productive.

[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

I don't get this mentality but ok.

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[+] danielquinn@lemmy.ca -8 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Working from home sucks. Yeah I said it.

I'm a software engineer, and yes, there are days that working from home really does help with concentration and focus on a particular project, but unless you're a contractor, tasked with "build this and come back when it's finished", building anything is typically a collaborative process. You know what sucks for collaboration? Working from home.

There are no tools that can sufficiently replace what the office offers: interaction, chance conversation, camaraderie and socialising with the people with whom you're trying to build The Thing. It's why people still go to actual conferences and no one cares about gigantic Zoom calls masquerading as real interaction. Slack sucks, Jira sucks, Teams suuuuuuucks. They'll do in a pinch, but they'll never offer real collaboration. For that, you still have to be in the same building.

That's not to say that offering remote work isn't great. There are people who work best in isolation, but that's not all of us. I'd argue that it isn't even most of us, and headlines like this "working from home makes us thrive" aren't helping. They're objectively bullshit. Having been in software development for 25 years, I can categorically state that the more remote the team I've been in, the less organised, the more disjointed and disconnected it is.

And don't get me started on the whole "overemployment" trend, where people try to hold down two jobs by doing neither well at all. Yet another "perk" of remote work I guess.

[–] audible_obituary@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I personally love remote work and I get that it isn't ideal for some people. I need to read more studies to understand, but I do wonder if a lot of the benefit (in some cases) comes from enabling people to do time theft. Letting people work at their own pace, take breaks as needed, do some chores, avoid commuting- all leading to better overall quality of life, happiness, health, and therefore productivity. Could we get a lot of the same benefits by moving to a 5 or 6 hour work day?

I don't think work from home should ever be taken off the table since for myself (and many others, clearly) it helps improve focus, happiness, etc. But I think that if we stand to gain more from working in person with other concessions made them we should explore those.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 days ago

I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the phrase "time theft", but I largely agree. The real benefit of hybrid work is flexibility, and I'd never want to take that away from anyone. I just object to the constant parroting of this lie that remote necessarily means more productive. I've never seen it, but I've seen many many cases of the opposite.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

There are no tools that can sufficiently replace what the office offers: interaction, chance conversation, camaraderie and socialising with the people with whom you're trying to build The Thing.

I don't know what kind of magical offices you've been working in, but my experience of offices have had none of those things. Interaction is almost exclusively sports-related. Chance conversation is basically just centered around "can you believe this guy?" Socializing actively avoids any discussion of The Thing or its building.

I'm glad you're having a good time in the office, but none of that stuff sounds like any office I've ever worked in. People would walk in, put their headphones on, sit at their desk for three and a half hours, and go get lunch.

And don't get me started on the whole "overemployment" trend, where people try to hold down two jobs by doing neither well at all. Yet another "perk" of remote work I guess.

I have a lot of trouble believing that's something that has ever actually happened in any meaningful amount. I remember seeing a few news stories about it, but they all came from dubious sources and sounded like they were written to capture the attention and suspicion of middle managers, but were light on any real evidence. I feel like most of the ones I've seen were about the same random guy who got caught basically right away and fired from both jobs.

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