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Chrome finally lets you move the address bar to the bottom, but not on Android (www.androidcentral.com)
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[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 71 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Just wanted to mention that Firefox and Mull for Android allow you to do that. They are also much better than Chrome or any Chromium based browser, as they allow proper adblockers and they don't support Google's monopoly on the browser rendering engines which is just bad for the open internet in general. Mull also significantly improves your privacy by using many patches from the Tor Browser.

[–] TesterJ@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (5 children)

The only downside to using Firefox on Android is that Google search results can take forever to load unless you clear site cookies. And Google Image search is awful.

However that's all fixed if you use Duck Duck Go instead.

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago

You shouldn't use Google anyway. Honestly, fuck Google and their surveillance ecosystem. If you want Google search results, try Startpage, it's a meta search engine for Google. Whoogle is also an option, it's essentially a proxy for Google searches. But for me, DuckDuckGo's results are totally fine, I'm able to find anything I need.

[–] ultra@feddit.ro 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

+1 for duckduckgo. Google is mostly ads nowadays

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

Ads and tracking. And censorship.

[–] renere@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i believe that's all fixed if you install the Google Search Fixer, or at least ive never had problems using google search on firefox android after installing that

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

I believe that it's also fixed by just using DuckDuckGo. Fuck Google, if you want Google search results, try Startpage, it’s a meta search engine for Google. Whoogle is also an option, it’s essentially a proxy for Google searches. But for me, DuckDuckGo’s results are totally fine, I’m able to find anything I need.

[–] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Or Kagi. I couldn't do DDG but Kagi was good enough for me to finally switch off of Google.

[–] LoyalOrange503@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

or use bing, I've switched to bing recently and it's be come an overall. more enjoyable experience. Of course, using something like Duck Duck go instead of using a big company alternative is better in any case.

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why would you use Bing except for the AI features which are only available on Edge anyway? At that point, why not use DuckDuckGo? It will give you the exact same search results as Bing without invading your privacy and selling your data.

[–] LoyalOrange503@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Does Duckduckgo uses bing's search engine?

Either way, just switched. Thanks!

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, it pulls in the search results from Bing.

[–] LoyalOrange503@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

ah, wonderful, thank you!

[–] ultra@feddit.ro 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And also fennec

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

Fennec is just Firefox Nightly without the Firefox branding. Mull is superior as it uses patches from the Tor Browser and settings from Arkenfox user.js, it greatly improves your privacy.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow how horrible... continues to use firefox

[–] agame@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

Anyways.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Why would Google code for its opponent's OS first? Not that I use Chrome, anyway. Firefox has had that feature for ages.

[–] evo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

Does it matter? The iOS app and Android app are almost certainly made by two different teams that operate independently.

[–] Moneo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Probably because safari has it that way by default.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

The reason is probably really mundane, like the iOS Chrome team and Android Chrome team not working in lockstep or something of the sort. Like the iOS team planned it for 2023 Q4 and the Android team for 2024 Q1

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The technology just isn't there yet

[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It used to be able to do it via an experimental feature, then they took that feature away. https://www.dignited.com/114084/how-to-relocate-the-chrome-address-bar-on-your-android-device/

It smacks of some VP of product development hating on the concept, despite it being optional, and wont back down over the decision. Most likely they used the navigation buttons on the bottom and this caused their great big sausage fingers a problem.

[–] snorlaxgg@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It was a joke

[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, I was aware, just hijacking the top comment as not everybody would have been aware it was actually fucking possible in the past

[–] TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Chromium Forks like Cromite and Brave have this feature already.

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Fuck Chromium. Don't support Google's monopoly on web rendering engines and use Firefox or Mull for Android as well as LibreWolf on desktop.

[–] TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago

I use both. Firefox for most of my work and Chromium for sites that usually don't work well on FF.

[–] Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I would recommend arkenfox over librewolf, that way you can use an up to date browser, with the same privacy and greater flexibility to enable features you may want (e.g. no letterbox etc).

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

LibreWolf massively improved it's update schedule and you can disable any feature you dislike. They have a separate page in the normal user-facing settings for disabling stuff like letterboxing, no need to use about:config. It's better for new users, but also just more convenient for power users. Having to explain how to harden Firefox to a new user would not be ideal.

[–] botorfj@lemdro.id 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've been using cromite for months! how did I not know about this??

[–] Justly0250@lemdro.id 4 points 2 years ago

how did I not know about this??

The first thing I do whenever I install anything is to go through the settings. To turn off trackers, analytics and explore the accessibility features.

[–] Swarfega@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

Being at the bottom makes more sense on today's larger phones. I'm just so used to it being at the top it's hard to get used to it being at the bottom of the screen.

[–] Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My old windows phone did this and I loved it. I'm surprised its taking Google this long to do this. Not that I use chrome but still

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

Firefox on Android has had this for quite a long time

[–] LoyalOrange503@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

lol, if chrome isn't going to allow it on android then what's the point? Safari offers it (if it's the only feature you care about), and is a lot better then chrome.

[–] Haveanicedayman@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Omg, why not for Android too? It's way easier to reach bottom than the top.

[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

It actually exists in the codebase, but is disabled. 'The feature is not yet available for Android but was previously tested on the platform.'

Cromite browser let's you do this.

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Use Firefox. And also switch away from Google as your search engine. DuckDuckGo is great but if you want Google search results, try Startpage, it’s a meta search engine for Google. Whoogle is also an option, it’s essentially a proxy for Google searches. But for me, DuckDuckGo’s results are totally fine, I’m able to find anything I need.

[–] thelastlombax@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Thank you for letting me know about Startpage!

[–] Wistful@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago

It never made sense to me, UX wise, to be up on handheld devices (one handed ones especially).

[–] jetsetdorito@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

funny enough.. it was a feature flag to move it to the bottom on android for a while before but they removed that too

[–] Wrongleverkrunk@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Eww