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[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 76 points 2 years ago (5 children)

There's an alternate timeline in which I actually give Bing and Edge a chance because Microsoft's not flinging their feces at their users constantly the way they are now

[–] hayhay@programming.dev 38 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It’s wild because Bing is generally quite good now, but I switched away from it recently because it kept trying to advertise edge…

Meanwhile edge tries to advertise “pay later” schemes and really gets in your face about bing…

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So to be honest, I did use Bing for a good while, mostly for the rewards, and it wasn't bad, but at some point I was using a Canadian IP with a VPN, and Microsoft stubbornly switched everything to Canadian currency and would no longer let me redeem my rewards with US dollars or within the US lol. Honestly, it's one thing that nudged me to start thinking more about using a search engine that's not as problematic as Google or Bing.

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[–] evatronic@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Until about maybe six months ago, Edge was great (please ignore the massive amount of data it sends to MS) as a browser. The user experience was top notch.

Some product owner with shit for brains was hired and started cramming Bing and AI nonsense into every corner.

MS needs to ease up, fast.

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[–] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The sad thing is that Edge is actually decent, and Bing is also not terrible... E.g. as an user there is absolutely no reason to use Chrome instead, but Microsoft managed to make it seem so annoying with shit like this.

[–] Swarfega@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

Edge was decent in beta and upon release. I find now though they have slowly been adding in their own features and now it's a browser packed with Microsoft's products.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Edge is actually decent

And also it tracks you, same as Chrome.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago

Normies barely know what that means, and don't care.

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[–] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I find bing to be slightly less shit than google these days.

[–] Dee@lemmings.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've actually found Bing to be way better than Google for a while now. It's not even close, idk what Google did to their search engine but it's pretty frustrating. It's all ads and irrelevant links.

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[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 53 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Really love being free of Windows and this bullshit.

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

My system76 laptop is in the mail and I'm excited.

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yup, the only Microsoft product I use at home is GitHub, my home computer is Linux, and my work computer is macOS, so I just don't see this BS.

[–] DrWeevilJammer@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah it is, and that's where I put my personal projects. But I like contributing to other FOSS projects, and most of those are in GitHub.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 33 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Outlook the other day insisted it was better opening links in Edge instead of my default browser... Yeah, I shut THAT down...

[–] alehel@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I encountered this at work today. I just assumed I couldn't turn it off. Will def be looking for that setting tomorrow.

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[–] ridago@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago

Tbf, they did recently (I think) implement a feature where Edge would open with the email in a sidebar when opening links from outlook. So at least there’s some point to it.. if that’s a feature anyone actually wants..

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[–] eddanja@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Stop trying to make Bing happen. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I like that it exists. I don't use it, nor do I plan to, but I like Google having more competition.

I personally use DuckDuckGo, another Google competitor.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'll say it a million times if I have to

Install Linux, take back your computer, get rid of the microshit problem

[–] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (10 children)

The game I want to play isn't available on Linux.

[–] s_s@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago

There are soooooo many games.

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[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Anyone else notice the search (in windows 10 at least) suddenly being fucking useless? Used to be able to just type "disk man" and it defaulted to the disk management control panel, now it's defaulting to a Bing search (in edge of course even though Firefox is default browser) for the phrase... Tried it on like 4 computers and only one was even offering the control panel as an option and it wasn't the first one. Same thing with "default apps"...

Really glad I made the jump to Linux when I did, everytime I have to do something out of the usual user use case in windows at work I find myself more and more frustrated and jaded with windows.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Confirming this on (my sister's installation of) Windows 11. Not even restore point would give me a result (switching to en-US at least found Reset my PC but still creating a restore point is nowhere to be found unless you know where to go from previous versions of Windows).

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[–] Skimmer@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are they begging for another antitrust?

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That would require a functional or semi-functional government which we currently do not have.

[–] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Windows 11 is malware . I’m older than yoda, I used windows all my life. Switched to fucking Mac last year which is shit, but iits not tracking my every move, is arguably not loaded with bloat, and nagging me about my choice of browser.

[–] Cargon@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Apple is still tracking you, they just aren't as donkey-brained as Microsoft.

[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago

Yeah, one of things that stood out was how much Apple tries to push signing into account too. And compared to Linux doesn't seem like you can use their App store without logging in on MacOS compared to Linux App Store.

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[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Richard Stallman, who art the in freedom of software, hallowed be thy name; the kingdom of GNU come; thy will be done; on every machine as it is free.

Give us this day our daily free softwares. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who touches macos. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from the scorched land of Microsoft.

For free softwares are the kingdom, the power and the glory, for ever and ever.

Richard Stallman wearing a halo, holding a book, looking like a christian saint

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] ninjamice@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago (4 children)

There was a thread on hackernews a few days ago (maybe even yesterday, time is a construct) where someone shared a screenshot of a pop up ad served to them by the OS itself.

Wtf. Why would anyone willingly use that crap?

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[–] Tygr@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Bing sucks. Their customer support is absolutely terrible. They blocked one of my sites and I can never get a response, so I just don’t bother with it (and don’t advertise there)

[–] amio@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

Edge* is fucking shitty, to boot. It keeps serving my grandma fucking scam ads, how in the ever-loving motherfuck is that a thing in an official Microsoft browser?

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[–] Cobrachickenwing@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago

Looks like Microsoft needs to be reminded about their anti trust case again. some things never change.

[–] JustARegularNerd@aussie.zone 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If the screenshot in the article is to be believed, it literally has a typo, missing a quote for Don't, which is usually one of the most common ways to spot suspicious activity and malware, and now, as someone working for an MSP, I have to now tell those users who see this that confusingly, yes this was legitimate and it was a Microsoft ad. The font isn't exactly standard either, the buttons look like Arial which also just looks suspicious.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago

Reminds me of that Facebook class action settlement that was legit, but it looked about as convincing as a ransomware screen

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Darn, beat me to it today, can I post this tomorrow?

On a more relevant note:

We are aware of these reports and have paused this notification while we investigate and take appropriate action to address this unintended behavior

What is utter bullshit, Alex?

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

unintended behavior

Who do they expect to believe this shit?

Like "oops we accidentally injected ads into your browser"?

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[–] Wyvven@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can they also get google telling me to switch to chrome every time I open an email to become classed as malware

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[–] Madex@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

Pushed me to endeavour os

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What is C:\windows\temp? Wasn't LOCALAPPDATA supposed for that?

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 5 points 2 years ago

This is getting tiring, not microsoft or Google or apple or any other, its too hard to be private these days, using nextdns, vpn and mull but I still dont feel safe browsing

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