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Sweden can't be real. (lemmy.world)

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[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I will never tire of telling Americans that to a lot of British people, "President Trump" sounds like "President Fart", and that it makes no sense that you would elect someone called that, even if they weren't stupid, senile, shit their pants in public and batshit crazy.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

and that it makes no sense that you would elect someone called that, even if they weren't stupid, senile, shit their pants in public and batshit crazy.

It only makes no sense if you've never left the coasts.

Compared to a lot of "Real Americans" (as they like to be called), he's an Astronaut, rock-star.

[–] Morlark@feddit.uk -5 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I never cease to be baffled by the seemingly boundless glee with which Americans will repeat this myth that has no basis outside of Internet cope. Literally nobody born in the last 100 years would read "trump" to mean "fart". The only meaning of "trump" to British people is the winning suit in a game of cards, or the concept of winning in general. There's literally a collectible card game in Britain called "Top Trumps", and let me tell you, it ain't about huffing farts. Unlike your absurd comment.

And even if people did understand "trump" to mean "fart", it's still an astonishing feat of mental gymnastics to claim that "it makes no sense that you would elect someone called that", because funnily enough, a person's name is totally unrelated to their ability to do the job, and lots of people have funny-sounding names that go completely unremarked upon, because people understand that a name is just a name.

I absolutely hate the guy, and yet when I see people purporting to make fun of his name based on something that isn't even true, rather than, y'know, attacking his actual policies and actions, it makes me despair at the pathetic state of American politics. Seriously, your country is going to the dogs, and the best thing you could think of to combat that is to baselessly make fun of a guy's name?

[–] D_C@lemm.ee 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Wrong.
When I was growing up in the East Midlands during 70s and early 80s trump was definitely used by many to describe flatulence. Definitely.
It was the go to word for it at my schools.
Then it seemed to die out towards the end of the 80s. No idea why, but at some point fart took over.

I have used it all my life and still use it to this day, even more so since that fat orange cunt was being overly cuntish on his first term.

Also.
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/264355/in-what-english-speaking-communities-does-trump-refer-to-the-breaking-of-wind

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 9 points 4 days ago

Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about? Trump has always meant fart.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I had graduated college before I ever met somebody who called soda "pop". I remember before that somebody telling me that some people called it "pop," and I was sure they were wrong. My mistake was thinking that just because I hadn't experienced something, that meant that it didn't happen.

I think mid-twenties was probably too old for me to have made such an elementary mistake.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

I grew up in the PNW and we called it "pop," and I always thought it was weird that anyone would call it "soda". Now I live in a "soda" area and have adapted.

I don't think there's a lesson here, just a relevant anecdote.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago

another brit here to say it's second nature to call farts trumps that the first time I heard of Donald Trump I made that exact connection

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Fuck off, I'm actually British and me, my friends and my family all use the word Trump to mean fart, and never use it in the archaic meaning you're referencing, and if there's anyone in the world who deserves to be made fun of, it's the flatulence in chief, President Donald Fartface.

[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 4 points 4 days ago

I may agree with some of your comment, but "trump" has definitely meant fart (at least in some parts of the UK) from at least the mid 1980s until the present day. It's seemingly still used by young people as well, though not as commonly as it was when I was younger (though I did hear a "who's fucking trumped, it fucking stinks" on the bus last week).

We all laughed at Donald Trump when we first heard his name in the 1990s, though most people didn't believe he was real (and it was hard to check such things, pre-internet). We certainly didn't believe he had a wife called something like "I want to trump".

Though we did play Top Trumps, we also definitely laughed at its name, and amongst our group of friends, introduced flatulence-based punishments for the loser.

Here's it in some dictionaries: "(intransitive) British slang to expel intestinal gas through the anus" Collins English Dictionary

"to release gas from the bowels through the bottom"
Cambridge English Dictionary

"slang or colloquial. The act of breaking wind audibly"
Oxford English Dictionary

I don't know why this matters to me so much :D

Maybe I'm just scared that our language is dying.