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Okay, just hear me out for a second.... I completely agree they should endorse him, but rather than just saying they are irreverent (though this may actually be the case) I would like to know in clear and concise terms WHY they are waiting/failing to endorse the man whom was chosen by the people. I think knowing why they won't endorse him is very relevant to the discussion. Eith
TLDR; their silence is very telling.
Honestly, I don't want their endorsement. Fuck em. This party is getting taken over by the left or we're burning it down.
I think they see the inevitable rise of fascism and don't want to get grabbed by Trump's brown shirts. They're liberals that are being scratched and looking for a safe place in the future.
They didn't even do their typical. "Oh we're against the bombing of Iran but because he didn't go through Congress". I literally was waiting to roll my eyes at all their liberal "following procedure for our war crimes" but they even stayed quiet about it mostly.
We had two parties. Fascist and Liberals. Now we just have fascist and Liberals looking for a safe place in the new power structures. They're kind of confused I think. A little caught off guard with how much Trump is following through on actual policy. They're use to both parties lying and giving working class dollars to the rich. The conservatives are no longer playing the game of politics they all use to love that got nothing done.
Fuck the party leaders and most of these shits in Washington. They have no place now. We don't need their endorsement.
We can win with the momentum. We don't need to win power back through votes. We just need to give this countries people enough hope to build class consciousness. Decades can happen it weeks.
I don't know about the rest of them, though I certainly have my suspicions, but with gillibrand it's very clearly just racism. That interview she gave was extremely telling.
It's rich people. The reason is rich people.
Rich is a symptom of reduced empathy
The willingness to exploit systems & labor for fun & profit
“Gillibrand apologized for mischaracterizing Mamdani’s record and for her tone on the call,” the readout said.
Guess which other party apologizes when they're wrong
Notice how she apologized for "mischaracterizing" and for her tone? Yeah. Because she know she would do that.
The entire point is to mischaracterize the position and spread racist xenophobia. Why can liberals know exactly what this is when conservatives do it to black people but when racist Zionist do it to brown people they think "well, they apologized by saying 'it wasn't totally accurate'"
Don't believe these people trying to fight progress by trying to appeal to Americans racism and xenophobia. They aren't your allies. They aren't good people. They are trying to keep them and their corrupt friends in power. That's it.
That's quite a conspiracy theory you got there. Is it not possible she was wrong and then admitted it?
she isnt sorry said she said that, she sorry she got called out.
Disagree
Yes she's very sorry the mask came off.
Well, and she admitted she was wrong. Publicly. So.
I mean b0tH SiDeZ and all that but still.
Every politician will eat shit when they have something that they want
"Rubio apologizes for ‘below the belt’ remarks about Trump’s appearance"
Oh so she’s going to back him now then?
I read that… but it unfortunately did not answer the question. But they play vague on purpose.
They've given interviews. According to them, Mamdani hasn't yet proven his viability among the general population, he only won a primary where 15% of the DNC participated with a plurality vote of 43%. Furthermore, some of them represent districts that hardlined against Mamdani such as neighborhoods in the southeastern part of Brooklyn. Mamdani won Brooklyn overall but the difference between neighborhoods he won and lost were very stark.
I agree with you, though, that they should endorse Mamdani. Any concerns about his type of socialism can be easily quelled with Mamdani's clear opposition to "communist countries".
Not endorsing Mamdani is just asking to split the vote and give Republicans the chance to fuck everything up.
I don't like 'viability among gen pop'. It's like assessing his electability. Doesn't matter, he was chosen in a democratic primary vote. He's the democratic candidate for mayor. If they expect us to fall in line and vote blue, they need to fall in line and endorse blue.
Rich fucks
"electability" was always a sham. It is exclusively used by millionaire news pundits and NYT writers to tell primary voters not to vote for the candidate with the policy that immediately improves the material conditions of the most people because of an imaginary cohort of "centrists" and "moderate republicans" who are terrified of anything good like free healthcare, child care, college, rent-control, and taxes on billionaires, but will totally vote for the version of those policies that will help nobody.
I agree but you have to focus on outcomes. Does endorsing him help or harm him? Does endorsing him help or harm themselves? The answer to these questions might very well be "I don't know".
If some general polls shine a big awesome light on Mamdani being the best possible candidate to defeat the Republican nominee, then hopefully that is more than enough reason for these few Democrats to fall in line behind him. If he polls at like 25%, it's going to start being time to look at other options.
However, the people chose him. I think maybe I have a naive/idealistic view of what a democracy actually is
That kind of reasoning makes sense to not endorse him in a run off.
But in the general election? He's got your party's nomination, so back your party. Your Cuomo boy got primaried, get over it. (Edit: the 'your' in this sentence applies to the party members listed in the OP, not the commenter and/or OP)
This is just money talking. Rich people don't like the ones that look like they won't bend to them. Hopefully he continues to not.
Also, this is yet another reason I don't associate with political parties. Super not a fan of them. It's the system we got, and I do vote with the dual party power structure in mind, but you'll never see me signed up in one.
That map makes New York look like a pelican rubbing its belly next to a rock.
Just looked up the bright blue square on Brooklyn - it's Borough Park: "home to one of the largest Orthodox Jewish communities outside Israel, with one of the largest concentrations of Jews in the United States"
Hmm! I don't think it's his policies they are against...
I don't know much about Judaism but I wouldn't be surprised if among Jewish philosophers, religious and spiritual thinkers and community activists that standing up against injustice especially if it is easy to ignore is a form of expressing your love of god/spiritual practice.
It is the same with all the actually legitimate teachings in all major religions (quantified crudely by number of practicioners and length of history the religion has been practiced), how could it be otherwise? We are all human beings after all.
sigh countless jews know this, what you are seeing is US colonialism using judaism as a toy to be violently discarded later, it is a tale as old as time, one that the conservative authoritarian elements of spiritual movements always fall for like it is catnip.
Mamdani just makes it painfully obvious this is the game pretend conservatives hiding as religious leaders always ALWAYS play.
Yeah it should come as no surprise, he's very openly pro-palestine and during the primaries the media framed a perfect picture of Mamdani for Palestine and Cuomo for Israel.
We're not talking about the mayor of Canon Beach, OR [randomly selected] with its cute chocolate shops, bed-and-breakfasts and small population. We're talking about going from state assembly advocate of the MTA to the whole shebang of one of the biggest concentrations of money and power in the world.
Admittedly, Eric Adams is the incumbent, so - wtf do I know. I'm all for Mamdani winning, I just think it's understandable to say "I'd prefer someone with more experience". That's not an excuse to shout him down, but I could understand not promoting him.
Plus - again, not a native New Yorker so wtf do I know - but I'd imagine someone who's publicly associated with what I'm guessing many people understand to be Muslim terrorism (I know that's not true, I'm saying many people think it is) would be difficult in most cities but in NY there's some reason it's an extra touchy subject.
What they're really mad about is how badly the Democrats planned, thinking they'd waltz in past the wreckage of Adams with Cuomo and seeing how shit his campaign was. Now they're going to lose the SDNY office leverage they had AND get painted as radical leftist tankies AND lose the moderate votes.
My first thought is; do these people normally endorse Mayoral candidates?
For NYC? Of course they do. Not a small town in Suburbia friend, this is the biggest city in the country. The mayor of New York is more important and more powerful than a good amount of Governors.
https://ballotpedia.org/Endorsements_by_Chuck_Schumer
I can't say that this list is comprehensive (there are only 4 endorsements) but filtering through Chuck's messages for the last 16 years is too much for me to do for a single comment on Lemmy.