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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/24657192

Summary

In a virtual speech at the World Economic Forum, Trump suggested Canada could become a U.S. state to avoid his proposed tariffs on imports.

The remark elicited gasps from the audience.

Trump claimed the U.S. does not need Canadian lumber, energy, or vehicles, vastly overstating the trade deficit between the two nations.

He reiterated his intention to impose tariffs, potentially as high as 25%, on imports from Canada and Mexico starting February 1.

Economists warn such tariffs would raise prices for U.S. consumers.

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[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 80 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

As a Canadian, fuck you Trump. Canada will never be a US state. Not sorry.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago (6 children)

If it goes down I'm just gonna scoot up north and fight on your side for Canadian citizenship.

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's a really good idea! I'm about 5-8 hours from the Canadian boarder but I will not fight for a fascist country. I'll either join the other side or join a resistance here.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm about 4 hrs from the border but could easily make that shorter in an emergency! Combat veteran as well.

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'm a vet also. Never felt the need for a gun as a civilian, but November changed that for me.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I got a couple last summer because I knew it'd be a shitstorm regardless of who won.

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[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The amount of Americans visiting Australia who assume people here would want to live in America instead given the option was astounding to me.

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[–] ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.ml 72 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Trump seems to have the goal of destroying the US from all I can tell. Our economy and power are so dependent on our connections to the rest of the world and he is burning them all down. The US dollar gets replaced as the fiat currency we are wholly fucked and this dumb shit is how that happens.

[–] Hafler@lemm.ee 45 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Somehow, even with conservatives owning all the branches of government, it will be the Dem's fault.

[–] ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 month ago

LGBTQ+ and immigrant fear can convince conservatives of about anything.

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[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Who needs dollars when you have $TRUMP meme coins?

[–] ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

Fair. I was just thinking what the monetary system really needed was to be more obscure, cartoonish, energy intensive and unstable.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago
[–] coolusername@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago

If America is forced to accept austerity measures over our massive debt when the dollar is no longer fiat, regular people will be the ones who suffer sadly.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

And the last gasp of our conservatives as the final pillar of the whitehouse collapses into a flaming wreck due to Trumps ridiculous toddler-like mismanagement of everything will be to blame it all on the Democrats.

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 month ago

Trump is going to speedrun all our ~~vassals~~ allies into joining BRICS, and I’m here for it.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 39 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Us citizens pay tariff this doesn't hurt Canadians. They should call bluff and say do 30%.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It potentially reduces exports from Canada to the US, hurting our economy. Nobody wins

[–] bstix 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Canada imports more from USA than it exports to USA. A trade war that decreases exports would hurt USA more than Canada.

The largest exports from USA to Canada are cars and trucks. (Finished products) The largest exports from Canada to USA are minerals, fuels and pulp. (Raw material)

This puts USA at a disadvantage in a tariff game, because it's a lot easier for Canada to replace American cars with Asian or European cars, than it is for USA to replace the variety of ressources that Canada provides

It's also a lot easier for Canada to find other customers for raw materials than it is to sell American cars on other continents.

[–] CuffsOffWilly@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Actually tariffs will hurt Canadians deeply. Why? Because it means that Americans will lean towards not buying products made in (or partially made in) Canada. Plus, Canada would certainly reciprocate meaning the price of everything is going to go up in Canada. It's not a good situation and our government needed to be spending the past 10 - 20 years developing stronger trade relations with other countries but instead we amplified our relationship with what is clearly a very unreliable and untrustworthy neighbour.

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[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 month ago

Dear Trump:

[–] sircac@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why people keep listening to what that being says? Just respond to his actions, anthing else is useless...

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I somewhat agree with your point but after years of him saying he would do fucked up shit and then him doing a lot of it, it helps to be prepared for his intentions as they manifest into actions in many cases.

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There is no actual fentanyl or immigration basis for tariffs on Canada. Just submit to less representation than California, and help absorb large US debt with little in return for it.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago

There's no basis for tariffs on Mexico either.

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 19 points 4 weeks ago (9 children)

Canada is avoiding Trump's tariffs by not becoming a state.

They are not paying the tariffs, american people do. So by joining the US they would start paying all the tariffs that Trump is putting on China's products, European products ....

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[–] llothar@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago

American anschluss of Canada to expand their lebensraum, because they feel they deserve it.

Musk does not hide how he feels about it, we wouldn't either.

[–] coolusername@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

rip you guys are gonna get couped
imperialism is manifesting itself in the imperial core

[–] Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Canada is one of the few countries that has actually defeated the USA. They even burned the white house.

[–] detectivemittens@beehaw.org 5 points 1 month ago

American here: honestly would not mind if Canada came and did that again at this point. Please help us get the Nazis out of the White House.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, that was the British during the war of 1812.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

British based in occupied Canada, with Canadian born soldiers the majority of soldiers.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't act like Canada hasn't been seeing it's own share of right wing extremists making their way into government.

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

Yeah no need for a coup really. Without a revolution Canada is gonna be part of this new axis on its own.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago

rip you guys are gonna get couped

Seems to me we got couped. It was just mostly domestically bloodless. So far.

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[–] bitPagan@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is the US so attractive that countries are lining up to join? 🤔🇺🇸

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Come for our healthcare! Stay cause you died.

[–] tourist@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Do you think he wanted to do this last time but ousted everyone who told him that's fucking psychotically stupid?

[–] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Just. You know....

become a state.

[–] SneakyWeasel@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago

How about trump can suck my left nut. There, I said it.

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