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[–] pyr0ball@sh.itjust.works 84 points 6 days ago (7 children)

"But most significantly, Microsoft has made Recall a feature you must opt in to using rather than opt out of using, and it's possible to remove it completely."

Important bit

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 50 points 6 days ago (6 children)

"Whoopsie, we turned it on for everyone by accident after an update! We made a fucky wucky!"

[–] tissn@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"Whoopsie, turns out we lied and recall was enabled from the start and just pretended to be off" 😄🤷‍♂️

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

"we noticed you uninstall Recall. Probably just an accident. We reinstalled it in an unremovable way and enabled it for you. You're welcome!"

Edit: autocorrect

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[–] Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Most MS controversial features go through "opt in -> opt out -> mandatory" pipeline examples are Telemetry, Windows Live account, Spotlight (ui ads), etc.

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[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 6 days ago (1 children)

only until they find out most people never enable it. Then it will be forced on

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 6 points 6 days ago

Yeah, this is just the thin end of the wedge.

Although I suppose you could call windows itself the thin end of the wedge, this is a slightly wider part.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

opt in for now.

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

For now, anyway. Let's hope it stays that way.

[–] hightrix@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Good! In my opinion this entirely changes the feature to acceptable.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They will eventually change the default to "on."

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[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 118 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It's a pretty bold move to advertise the inclusion of a key logger in your OS.

[–] eronth@lemmy.world 70 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Not just keylogger. It's a screenlogger too.

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[–] turnip@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Youd already be using Linux Mint or Ubuntu if you cared about not being data mined.

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[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 54 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 23 points 6 days ago (18 children)

Nahh bro just use third party script then re run it every update 🤡

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 18 points 5 days ago

Copilot+ PCs have specific hardware requirements beyond the ones necessary to run Windows 11. The most significant is the requirement for a neural processing unit (NPU) that can process more than 40 trillion operations per second (TOPS).

So in other words, copilot will be a huge enormous waste of electricity as it's continuously training some shitty AI. Gottit.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Install Linux already, be done with this windows nonsense

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I agree. But people also need to be ready for some of the Linux bullshit brings. I've switched recently and it's never 100% smooth sailing. But at least no tracking and proprietary bullshit.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, this can be an unpopular opinion on Lemmy, because there’s a giant Linux circlejerk. But the unfortunate reality is that changing to Linux does have some major stumbling blocks. The “switching is so easy, just do it” crowd totally glosses over it, but that’s kind of rhetoric doesn’t help long term adoption. Because if some new user has only heard “switching is so easy” and immediately runs into issues, they’ll be more likely to go “well if it’s super easy and I can’t figure it out, I guess it’s just not for me” and abandon things.

There’s also a very vocal (and toxic) part of the Linux community that basically just screams “RTFM” at every newbie question. New users shouldn’t be expected to dig into a 350 page technical document just to learn the basics of their new OS.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Yea... The biggest wtf moment was

  1. Logitech doesn't have Linux drivers.... I didn't know this before switching. It's not really Linux's fault, but users won't care. The fact that something as basic as a mouse and keyboard need tinkering sucks

  2. Nvdia drivers are wonky and buggy it took me 2h to configure my two monitor setup. Again, really not Linux's fault, but people won't care

  3. Same random bugs like suspend not working, or extern drives randomly mounting, it's little things

So yea... I like Linux way better than Windows now, but "just switch everything works" simply isn't true and we have to be honest.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago

Bullshit like what? That most stuff just does as advertised?

Yeah, there will be technical issues here and there, but are you really going to claim widows doesn't have technical issues?

I've been doing Linux desktop for over 25 years now and every time I look at windows it's always because of some bullshit technical issue and I always have to wonder why people pay for that shit

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (3 children)

every linux user: Oh no...well anyway

[–] kalipixel@reddthat.com 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It is good to use linux. But this has an impact on everyone to some degree. You may use Linux, but does your family, friends, your doctor, your teacher or boss, and whoever else who has some of your personal data?

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[–] commander@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

In 2005 Windows was like 95% of the desktop/laptop market. Today it's 70-75%. Since then mobile phones usurped a lot of functionality that used to require a desktop/laptop. Windows dependency is going to keep trending down both in just desktop/laptop or including mobile devices

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Have to admit, the name "Recall" does have a better ring to it than "Take a Screenshot Every 3 Seconds".

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[–] Novocirab@feddit.org 27 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is a huge opportunity. All of us Linux geeks now need to be on mainstream social media platforms and actively seek out and help everyone who expresses an interest in switching from Windows to Linux.

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (13 children)

Let me save you the trip. I have an old trash spec hp all in one that's had the bag beat out of it, what is the best lightweight Linux distro to make this a usable web browsing and PDF file viewer? (To be used in my garage to look at FSM, wiring diagrams, play music, Google crap etc nothing demanding). I've tried mint and it works ok but thinking lighter weight ?

[–] Swakkel@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago

Damn Small Linux is very lightweight and comes with browser and PDF viewer preloaded. It doesn't have a GUI software installer though, so you will have to use the terminal if you need to install stuff.

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I see you have only two different answers so far. which is just not playing the game. i'll give you another two; there are at least 15 "best lightweight linux distro". For your use, I'd pick any one at random, try it out on a bootable usb.

Personslly, I'd try stock debian and choose LXQT for a lightweight desktop.

puppylinux also deserves a mention, I always have a bootble PL usb lying around somewhere. Its reliable , fast for a usb, very good potato-compatibility, has loads of useful programmes and utilitiea already in there. I've never actually installed it permanently though. Scared of making a commitment to slackware that I don't understand.

I'd avoid Damn Small and Tiny Core though - unless you really need them. Cool as they are they are well out of mainstream.

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[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

We live in weird age, where using Windows is becoming harder than Linux (even though it has its own issues).

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[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 15 points 6 days ago (7 children)

How long until Microsoft gets accused of stealing classified info?

[–] jve@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Last time they thought about rolling it out, security researchers immediately found ways to do clear text exfiltration of user data.

This should be terrifying for anybody who is at all concerned about opsec for anything at all.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Corporate /LTS editions don't have this crap. MS only rapes the peasantry

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 days ago

For now. Plus, lots of companies still use Windows "Professional" SKUs.

Thankfully my work laptop runs W11 Enterprise, but still...

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[–] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 5 points 5 days ago

On a separate note, I just installed a Linux partition on my laptop to dual boot since I still need windows for AGI32 and Autodesk. Next weekend, I'll be shrinking my windows partition, move my files to a new partition and mount it in Linux so I can access files both ways.

Feels so good to have absolute control of my computer again.

I'm glad I got out when I could because Recall is such a dodgy 'feature'.

[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I guess that means I have to break out the old GOATSE wall paper.

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