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It’s also android phones. All of the shots in the article are of android phones.
This is likely just recording sessions of the carrier’s app, not everything on your phone. Session recording for CS and UX is pretty common these days. It can be impossible to identify a problem unless you actually see what is happening in the app.
That said, you have to ask for consent for this shit. A lot of companies don’t alert customers when they release a new tool that requires privacy consent.
This is so. At the bottom of the article it says:
To help us give customers who use T-Life a smoother experience, we are rolling out a new tool in the app that will help us quickly troubleshoot reported or detected issues. This tool records activities within the app only and does not see or access any personal information. If a customer’s T-Life app currently supports the new functionality, it can be turned off in the settings under preferences.
So yes, it can only see itself, i.e. within the T-Mobile app. It's still dumb.
I'm not well versed enough in Android app development to answer whether or not one userspace app can even access the screen contents of another app without root or special permissions, but it wouldn't surprise me if there are several roadblocks in that path on the part of the OS for obvious reasons.
For quality assurance reasons, we've defined 'within the app' as 'everything on the phone while our app is running in the background'.
That’s not possible without a permission prompt (on both iOS and android). So there’s no changing the goalposts like you suggest, without the user giving explicit permission.
The API for iOS screen recording is sandboxed to the app itself. There is currently no system-wide screen recording API for developers.
iOS does have an API for apps to record the screen throughout the OS these days through Broadcast Extensions, but it has to be user-initiated through the control center screen recording toggle (where they then get to pick what app to record the screen to instead of just saving as a video), it wouldn't do that people think the T-Mobile app is doing
I see it now. Yes, broadcasting is available, but with the limitations you’ve specified. Thanks for the update/correction!
I’m not well versed enough in Android app development to answer whether or not one userspace app can even access the screen contents of another app without root or special permissions
This requires special permissions and explicit user approval every time an app starts screen recording, plus it shows a red notification whenever screen recording is active.
I think you could get by with a one-time user approval as a device administration or assistive app permission, which you'd need to manually grant in Settings. Unlikely anyone would do that by accident.
That might be different for system-level apps. I haven't bought a carrier-branded phone in 10+ years so I'm not sure what that's like these days.
Lemmy bring biased again?
OP literally changed the title to include iPhone when the actual title from the link says screen recording.
The article was updated. That may have been the original title since this was first discovered on an iPhone.
Buy yeah, OP should update this headline. Especially since it probably hits a lot more Lemmy users than originally reported.
It's only recording screens within the app. This sounds like an analytics tools. Any webpage can do this, common usage is click tracking.
Yup. Worked briefly for a company that would "snapshot" the browser view quite often, enough where if an issue arose we could somewhat replay the user's interactions to try and repro the issue.
Man, that pendulum swing from “the uncarrier” to full blown horrible large corporation. That merger with Sprint sure has made things better for customers, right?
The only issue here is that it was turned on by default.
It only records your use of the T-mobile app, and specifically tells you what it’s doing any why you’d use it. Off should be the default.
This type of gross invasion should be illegal and land executives and developers in jail. Look at how Germany jailed VW executives and developers behind a massive emissions testing fraud incident. Enough is enough
Yyeeeaaahh sorry no those are rich people you're talking about we don't jail them around here.
with price increases a frequent occasion in recent times
Good grief this article was padded for length. Who speaks like that? How hard is it to write "with recent price increases"?
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"Secretly"
To whom?
They're straight up screen recording customers? That's crazy.
The crazier thing is, T-Mobile is in USA which means they're going to get away with it.
Another reason to only buy unlocked, non-carrier subsidized phones with AOSP installed if possible
Tons of corporate software out there will record user sessions in order to debug issues and replay a user’s interactions so an engineer can review it. Take a look at tools like Hotjar, Logrocket, and Fullstory.
Not making excuses for them and it’s probably less insidious than this makes it out to be, but people should be aware that this is not uncommon at all.
Ok that app is deleted.
