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Panel 1 Man and woman in office clothes in a break room.

Man: So, if you were alone in a forest, would you rather run into a strange man… or a bear?

Panel 2 Woman: Oh, hmm… I think the bear.

Man (angry): How can you say that?

(Bear looking quizzically through the window)

Panel 3 Man (angry): You're demonizing men! It's misandry!

Panel 4 Woman: Good point. Why would I ever hear men's reactions?

Man: Exactly! …where did the honey go?

Panel 5 Woman and bear sharing tea

Woman: At least if you maul me, pepper won't say I made it up or I'm misinterpreting.

Bear: I hear you

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[–] stray@pawb.social 3 points 3 hours ago

My thing with the man and bear has always come down to motivations. If a bear rapes me, it's because it's horny. If a bear mauls me, it's because it's scared or defending its territory. If a bear eats me, it's because it's hungry. Dominance and cruelty will not come into it. The bear will not keep me alive in its basement.

The other thing is that bears don't lie. You might not understand their language, but they absolutely will not act like they're friendly and safe only to lure you or groom you. If it wants to kill you, it'll just do it without any fucked-up mind games.

I haven't posted here before because I'm never sure how to feel about gendered spaces, but this particular issue is one of those ones where I can't help but identify as a woman. I think it's probably all the trauma. :D

[–] LadyButterfly@lazysoci.al 18 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Sorry for all the trolling everyone, and massive thanks to admins who've been protecting us you're amazing 👏

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I really am very sorry for posting this at some level. I thought it was a good take on the thought experiment (further enhanced by some pretty nifty artwork). But really, just mentioning the meme is enough to get all the CHUDs out of the sewers and into the comments and I should have known better.

[–] LadyButterfly@lazysoci.al 7 points 4 hours ago

No victim blaming in our group ZDL! It's not your fault at all , it's not 1% your fault.

[–] Sombyr@lemmy.zip 9 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

At least I get to watch them fly into my blocklist like mosquitos into a bug zapper lol

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 6 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, I added a few more bugs into my Cornell Drawers from this.

[–] LadyButterfly@lazysoci.al 6 points 14 hours ago
[–] dexa_scantron@lemmy.world 46 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

"I've never been sexually assaulted by a bear" tends to shut this BS down pretty fast in my experience.

[–] LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 15 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Tragic but valid point. Plus more women are killed by men than bears....

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[–] hedge_lord@lemmy.world 24 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Men's responses to the "man or bear" question perfectly illustrate the point of the question but they just. Don't. Understand. That.

It's not necessarily that a woman is answering the question "man or bear?", it's that everyone in the conversation when she does so can answer "do you respect me or what I have to say at all?" and the answer from men is often a resounding "no!" A bear would just accept someone's answer as her answer and leave it at that.

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 14 hours ago

Thank you for voicing the thoughts I was having such trouble putting into words

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 21 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

The real beliefs I think a lot of the people responding secretly hold:

A blonde woman is embracing a very large bear.  Text is placed atop the picture reading: "They look so cute and cuddly, but the slightest thing can turn this beautiful creature into something so dangerous and violent that the toughest of men could be killed or maimed for life.  Here you can see it cuddling a bear."

[–] blackstampede@sh.itjust.works 13 points 14 hours ago

This bear in particular is maybe not much better than a dude. He's gettin a little handsy.

[–] LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 16 hours ago

Yep which flies in the face of evidence as few adult men are killed by adult women. But the misogyny that some men hold is just pure bigotry

[–] LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 15 points 18 hours ago

I really like this comic and sadly it's true. I know nothing about bears and I'm physically disabled so I'm gonna pick the man. I can talk to him, and I know a bit about men but the bear I'm fucked.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 32 points 20 hours ago (7 children)

It's fun watching how many people aren't reading the rules before they comment.

Rule #1 isn't all that unclear.

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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 14 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

Really cute art style here, I love the pooh-bear thing at the end. It's the man that asks for the honey, heh.

I feel like this thought experiment is a shiri's scissor. My take on this is that the worst humans are more dangerous than a wild bear. Here's the quantitative version: what percentile of dangerousness in man would you pick over the bear? For me, I would switch from man to bear at the 90% percentile -- I think the 10% worst men are a riskier proposition than the bear.

[–] insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago

Point is you don't know whether the man is a good one or not when you bump into him.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago

I agree with you but also, I stand by my assertion: if I'm in nature and see a bear that's good. If I'm asked who I'd rather keep bumping into on a trail, obviously a man, I'll be polite and if he gets too creepy I probably have bear spray.

[–] WillStealYourUsername@piefed.blahaj.zone 28 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

Edit: Oh this is not 196, ignore. But everyone please keep in mind this community does not allow participation by men.

Also, I will still ban misogyny.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 21 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

this community does not allow participation by men.

Also, I will still ban misogyny.

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[–] WillStealYourUsername@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Well these sorts of posts tend to invite lots of men to "not all men" a lot.

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[–] LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 18 hours ago

Thanks Linda appreciate you 😊

[–] SRo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Oh a thread only for cunts

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 10 points 16 hours ago

Its trans inclusive so women with cocks are plenty welcome :)

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