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[–] RabbitBBQ@lemmy.world 24 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

If the standard is replicating human level intelligence and behavior, making up shit just to get you to go away about 40% of the time kind of checks out. In fact, I bet it hallucinates less and is wrong less often than most people you work with

[–] bier@feddit.nl 4 points 5 hours ago

My kid sometimes makes up shit and completely presents it as facts. It made me realize how many made up facts I learned from other kids.

[–] Devanismyname@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 hours ago

And it just keeps improving over time. People shit all over ai to make themselves feel better because scary shit is happening.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

I use chatgpt as a suggestion. Like an aid to whatever it is that I’m doing. It either helps me or it doesn’t, but I always have my critical thinking hat on.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

I did a google search to find out how much i pay for water, the water department where I live bills by the MCF (1,000 cubic feet). The AI Overview told me an MCF was one million cubic feet. It's a unit of measurement. It's not subjective, not an opinion and AI still got it wrong.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 45 minutes ago

Shouldn't it be kcf? Or tcf if you're desperate to avoid standard prefixes?

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 9 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Everywhere else in the world a big M means million.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, shouldn't that be Kcf, Kilo cubic foot?

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 44 minutes ago

Kilo is a small k as there wasn't a person named that.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I think in this case it's Roman numeral M

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 43 minutes ago

The only thing that would make more sense would be if the bill was in cuneiform.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 11 points 6 hours ago

Americans really using ANYTHING but metric, huh?

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Except languages like French (mille)

[–] Lemmy_2019@lemmy.one 1 points 1 hour ago

And Irish -- míle.

Yeah, that's an odd one. My city does water by the gallon, which is much more reasonable.

[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 69 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

First off, the beauty of these two posts being beside each other is palpable.

Second, as you can see on the picture, it's more like 60%

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 16 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

No it's not. If you actually read the study, it's about AI search engines correctly finding and citing the source of a given quote, not general correctness, and not just the plain model

[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 22 points 11 hours ago

Read the study? Why would i do that when there's an infographic right there?

(thank you for the clarification, i actually appreciate it)

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

If you want an AI to be an expert, you should only feed it data from experts. But these are trained on so much more. So much garbage.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Most of my searches have to do with video games, and I have yet to see any of those AI generated answers be accurate. But I mean, when the source of the AI's info is coming from a Fandom wiki, it was already wading in shit before it ever generated a response.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 5 points 11 hours ago

I’ve tried it a few times with Dwarf Fortress, and it was always horribly wrong hallucinated instructions on how to do something.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 149 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I love that this mirrors the experience of experts on social media like reddit, which was used for training chatgpt...

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 40 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

Also common in news. There’s an old saying along the lines of “everyone trusts the news until they talk about your job.” Basically, the news is focused on getting info out quickly. Every station is rushing to be the first to break a story. So the people writing the teleprompter usually only have a few minutes (at best) to research anything before it goes live in front of the anchor. This means that you’re only ever going to get the most surface level info, even when the talking heads claim to be doing deep dives on a topic. It also means they’re going to be misleading or blatantly wrong a lot of the time, because they’re basically just parroting the top google result regardless of accuracy.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

One of my academic areas of expertise way back in the day (late '80s and early '90s) were the so-called "Mitochondrial Eve" and "Out of Africa" hypotheses. The absolute mangling of this shit by journalists even at the time was migraine-inducing and it's gotten much worse in the decades since then. It hasn't helped that subsequent generations of scholars have mangled the whole deal even worse. The only advice I can offer people is that if the article (scholastic or popular) contains the word "Neanderthal" anywhere, just toss it.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I'm curious. Are you saying neanderthal didn't exist, or was just homo sapiens? Or did you mean in the context of mitochondrial Eve?

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 34 minutes ago

Sientists confirm it: we are living in a simulation!

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

Are you saying neanderthal didn’t exist, or was just homo sapiens? Or did you mean in the context of mitochondrial Eve?

All of these things, actually. The measured, physiological differences between "homo sapiens" and "neanderthal" (the air quotes here meaning "so-called") fossils are much smaller than the differences found among contemporary humans, so the premise that "neanderthals" represent(ed) a separate species - in the sense of a reproductively isolated gene pool since gone extinct - is unsupported by fossil evidence. Of course nobody actually makes that claim anymore, since it's now commonly reported that contemporary humans possess x% of neanderthal DNA (and thus cannot be said to be "extinct"). Of course nobody originally (when Mitochondrial Eve was first mooted) made any claims whatsoever about neanderthals: the term "neanderthal" was imported into the debate over the age and location of the last common mtDNA ancestor years later, after it was noticed that the age estimates of neanderthal remains happened to roughly match the age estimates of the genetic last common ancestor. And this was also after the term "neanderthal" had previously gone into the same general category in Anthropology as "Piltdown Man".

Most ironically, articles on the subject today now claim a correspondence between the fossil and genetic evidence, despite the fact that the very first articles (out of Allan Wilson's lab and published in Nature and Science in the mid-1980s) drew their entire impact and notoriety from the fact that the genetic evidence (which supposedly gave 100,000 years ago and then 200,000 years ago as the age of the last common ancestor) completely contradicted the fossil evidence (which shows upright bipedal hominids spreading out of Africa more than a million and half years ago). To me, the weirdest thing is that academic articles on the subject now almost never cite these two seminal articles at all, and most authors seem genuinely unaware of them.

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[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 57 points 18 hours ago (2 children)
[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 5 points 10 hours ago

i was going to post this, too.

The Gell-Mann amnesia effect is a cognitive bias describing the tendency of individuals to critically assess media reports in a domain they are knowledgeable about, yet continue to trust reporting in other areas despite recognizing similar potential inaccuracies.

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[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 56 points 19 hours ago (3 children)
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[–] RedSnt 13 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

I've been using o3-mini mostly for ffmpeg command lines. And a bit of sed. And it hasn't been terrible, it's a good way to learn stuff I can't decipher from the man pages. Not sure what else it's good for tbh, but at least I can test and understand what it's doing before running the code.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

In my experience plain old googling still better.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder if AI got better or if Google results got worse.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 3 points 6 hours ago

Bit of the first, lots of the second.

[–] RedSnt 0 points 7 hours ago

True, in many cases I'm still searching around because the explanations from humans aren't as simplified as the LLM. I'll often have to be precise in my prompting to get the answers I want which one can't be if they don't know what to ask.

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 9 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I just use it to write emails, so I declare the facts to the LLM and tell it to write an email based on that and the context of the email. Works pretty well but doesn't really sound like something I wrote, it adds too much emotion.

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 2 points 5 hours ago

This is what LLMs should be used for. People treat them like search engines and encyclopedias, which they definitely aren't

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

That sounds like more work than just writing the email to me

Yeah, that has been my experience so far. LLMs take as much or more work vs the way I normally do things.

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