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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 207 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

This comment, all by itself, is an impeachable offense. Sigh.

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 105 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

He swore an oath to the very thing he doesn't give a shit about.

The constitutional crisis happened on swearing in day.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 77 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The person being sworn in as President by the Chief Justice that day was ineligible for office according to the 14th Amendment section 3. And he could only do that because Congress neglected its Constitutional duty to enforce that provision.

That is all three branches of the government colluding to break the Constitution to put an ineligible man into the highest office.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

All three branches ran by his sycophants, the Republicans.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's hard to imagine how he could have sycophants among those people in the first place. Those people, despite their low moral character, are among the highest echelon of politicians in this country. It's weird that they'd just fall in line.

Well, we know that some of them are simply afraid of the money that he's grifted for campaigns. And on top of that, my current guess is that Trump, a Russian agent, has been given access to all sorts of kompromat to blackmail them with.

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Can you imagine if Obama said this? Did literally any of these things?

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[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Many things are impeachable offenses; but nothing is convictable.

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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 97 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

We treat him better than any criminal and he still cries about being treated unfairly... anyone else in America would be behind bars right now.

[–] ITeeTechMonkey@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We even have a real life example of this with all of the January 6th convictions resulting in jail time whereas his Highness was protected by a fascist judge who stalled the court proceedings at every opportunity.

Judge Aileen Cannon needs to be removed from her position, never be allowed to hold any judicial or public office position, and charged with obstruction of justice.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Absolutely, and it also didn't help that Merrick Garland (who, let me remind you, was only nominated for SCOTUS in the first place because Obama thought he was so conservative that not even McConnell could object to him) slow-walked the case for two years to begin with.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 weeks ago

A jury of his peers literally found him guilty of several felonies.

Upon sentencing, the judge said, "Woopsie! I guess we can't put you in prison because you're a president now. Oh well."

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 38 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Asked in the interview whether U.S. citizens and noncitizens alike deserve due process as laid out in the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution, Trump was noncommittal.

“I don’t know. I’m not, I’m not a lawyer. I don’t know,” Trump said when pressed by Welker.

Do you need to be a lawyer to be aware of the Bill of Rights? He's been President for more than 4 total years, head of the executive branch charged with executing the law for the entire country, has a whole staff of lawyers advising him, and has, himself, pled the 5th (!) and he's still not even familiar with the 5th amendment?

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 weeks ago

And he's sworn to uphold the Constitution (though a serial liar like him is about as trustworthy as a fox watching the chicken house)

[–] Batman@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Dementia is a path to many inconsistencies some consider to be... a big deal

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Just wait till it affects him personally and he will.

[–] thoughtfuldragon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It already did and he got off scot-free because of it.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

In classic Conservative fashion he benefited from due process when he needed it and now he wants to remove it so others can't benefit from it.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

George Washington saw this coming

"[…] cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion."

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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Two would-be assassins tried to circumvent due process. Due process benefits all without regard for politics. Or it should.

[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

And after the fall of the Roman Republic, when the emperors would speak to “rule of law” in theory, but relied almost entirely on “might makes right” in practice, assassination attempts became so commonplace that it simply became part of the job of being imperator.

Without due process, our civilization devolves into a mafia mob boss scenario - assassination and coup after assassination and coup - until eventually the empire fragments into fiefdoms. But now with rifles and drones.

No sane person should want this.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 11 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, my immediate thought: he will when he's tried for treason. Not that that will help him, if he and his Business Plot 2.0 co-conspirators are ever tried. So will W, Cheneys, Rices, and if we're lucky, hrc.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 35 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If any other president ... Democrat or Republican ... had come out and said the things Turnip has said over the years, they would have lost their political careers by now

The problem isn't this orange idiot, the problem is the mass of people, politicians, funders, enablers and wealthy backers who want this moron in power. Turnip is a powerless fool .... it's the people who keep him power that are the problem

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[–] notgivingmynametoamachine@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Immediately disqualified from office. Whoever stops this menace is going to be considered a national hero, regardless of their methods.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

If that's not one of the first questions Monday morning from the White House Press pool they should all be fired. What other Oaths does he not know if needs to uphold? What other parts of the Constitution which he took an oath to defend and uphold does he not believe in?

[–] xorollo@leminal.space 6 points 3 weeks ago

Well, as another example, he doesn't know what rhe Declaration of Independence is about. See timestamp 3:18. https://youtu.be/GBwCUPttprw

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 20 points 3 weeks ago

I N A L I E N A B L E

R I G H T S

Fucking with them is a spectacularly bad idea, just ask the British.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

So the social contract is null and void.

And force is the only thing backing up power now with only resistance stopping it.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Presidents should do something, like some form of oath, to uphold this kind of things. And pass a test to ensure they understand all the complicated words.

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It would be hilarious if instead of asking this, the reporter asked him to define "due process"

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"Of course I know what due process is. A lot of my friends are due process experts, and they're always telling me 'Donald, you do so much process. Nobody does process as brilliantly as you.'"

[–] Corno@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This is coming from the same administration that thought transgenic mice were transgender mice. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he actually comes out with something like this.

[–] xorollo@leminal.space 9 points 3 weeks ago

I noticed recently that the annotated constitution website suggests visitors to search "due process" in the search bar.

https://constitution.congress.gov/

[–] BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Remember when he wouldn't put his hand in the Bible when he took his oath of office?

[–] Belgdore@lemm.ee 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This isn’t facebook, no one cares if he follows esoteric religious traditions.

The problem is that he won’t follow legal requirements that protect us normal people.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah but it's funny that his base of evangelical Christians doesn't give a shit.

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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

I don't support constitutional due process for him either

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

So if he doesn’t support it does that mean you cant violate the constitution if he’s removed by any means?

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well he's the president, so he should really get clear on that. Immediately.

[–] Thoven@lemdro.id 7 points 3 weeks ago

He is clear on it, he just doesn't want to admit it

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 8 points 3 weeks ago

Oh he wants to waive his due process rights, then?

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Has this not been established the past few months?

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago

That means no trial is necessary for him, naturally.

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