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Fuck it, if we're doing this make customer service the same as well

100% guarantee that those who are proposing this will have some sort of exemptions for themselves and their oligarch friends.

Who's the "our" in "our farms" referring to? 👀

DEAL, however as these farms are worked by the public they should become owned by the public. And the harvest be distributed at-cost to the public.

Or, and hear me out here: We could pay people a competitive wage for their labor.

I understand the need for agricultural subsidies. The government inserts itself into the normal supply/demand process to protect the general public against a famine.

What I don't understand is why those subsidies don't seem to be flowing past the greedy hands of corporate farmers and into the pockets of farm laborers.

Real farmer here(who has never voted red). I don't trust the average American not to completely fuck up any harvest and not to bitch constantly about the heat or dirt. It's bad enough hearing people who work in AC complain about the heat to me.

Nope. It’s slavery. They want to do a slavery.

Under this plan, would the farms be nationalized, or would people be forced to work for the profit of private farm owners?

Are we also nationalizing the farms?

Nationalized industry that always produces food at cost and pays all of its workers well and fairly would be a great idea so long as the people setting it up aren't completely untrustworthy fucks.

Oh wait

This is what MAO did during the cultural revolution. Intellectuals and ‘professionals’ got sent to work in the communes. Hard to believe that MAGAts are asking for commmnist policies, but then the Kirk thing has surprised me in terms of the policies they want now. Since Kirks policies are no longer acceptable?

If only it came with a few more aspects of maoism. Like the obliteration of landlords

I wonder how many rich kids will develop bone spurs?

And they and their rich friends will find a way to pay their way out of it

Do serious farmers even want inexperienced randos picking their precious harvest though? I guess it might depend on the crop, but a lot of vegetables and fruits need the proper handling, or they'll be ruined or at least second-rate.

Make it so the farmer has to pay the median wage to anyone drafted like this.

I bet they'll shut up real fast.

Great. We all say this about the service industry, too. So since farming is your life blood you think its hard and people need to understand.

By that logic, everyone should be drafted for many different vocations to gain perspective on other people's careers.

Edit: Also it seems she's implying that someone else will pay the wages if she wants a draft. She wouldn't have to rely on imported employees if she payed a living wage to begin with.

So... Slavery with more steps?

All "right wing" farmers parties are just agrarian socialists with racism and sexism.

Make America Great Leap Forward Again

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and guess that Kelly is over 30?

I arguably hate Maoism the most of all popular authoritarian left ideologies. So it makes sense to me that irredeemably evil and stupid conservatives and fascists would unconsciously like it's policies.

As somebody that worked in a cornfield for minimum wage, it sucks. Your feet get heavy with mud, it's hot, the leaves give you "papercuts". One summer is enough to make you never want to do it again.

Bourgeois conservatives are obsessed with 20th century communism. The billionaire class has had its own vanguard since Prescott Bush. Steve Bannon calls himself a Leninist, though I'm not real sure what he means. The Republican obsession with culture war is influenced by Gramsci and his theory of hegemonic power. And the republican strategy of politically controlling cities through rural areas, as in "the country surrounds the city," is a component of Maoism.

Not saying there is an affinity between far right conservatives and communists, I don't believe that there is one. But 20th century communists' application of dialectical materialism uncovered new political dynamics through their work with the masses, and unfortunately the far right learned many of these lessons, though only as a way to gain power for themselves noy liberation for all; while democrats clung death like to liberal idealism and refused to learn anything from the left, since it is the dems job to oppose and keep power from us.

not the worst idea really; community or civil service would be better. especially outside the town you’re from.

my high school made everyone do 40 hours community service and the connections and friends I made then still stand today and I live thousands of miles away now

Honestly I'm all for it. It gives you some understanding how food is produced, gives you some contact with nature, maybe some physical exercise, some respect for farm workers, and such.

edit: after thinking about it, i'm NOT all for it. i'm against all forms of forced labor.